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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Citizens of the US are really screwed, with a pseudo-democracy where they can only choose between conservatives or fascists, apart from practically half of the population who show that Descartes was wrong, because they exist but they don't think.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

The US has never been a country that's good or fair. It's only very slowly gotten a little better through the sweat and blood of good people.

If we want it to get better it's going to be a lot of difficult and painstaking work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I mean, that's a weird-ass AI prompt. But if fascism wins and you voted third party, yes - it's partly* your fault unless you're too stupid to understand how first past the post voting works.

*conditionals against massive fascist party majority states notwithstanding.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

two things to consider

  • voting harder wont actually stop fascism, the nazis took power with 30% of the vote

  • not everyone gets a vote, myself included (not a citizen)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Eh, 30% in a parliamentary system is effectively the majority.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would we continue doing the exact same thing that has been time and time again proven to be a cheap bandaid that never addresses the issues? Fuck that. We have to try different ways of making progress in this country or we’re fucked. We’re not really a democratic country anyway. None of our representatives actually fight and do what we ask of them. So why fall for it again?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bbbut we just need to buy time for [insert other thing that hasn't been working]!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is so good, did you make it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I used Dall-E to generate the individual elements and put them together in Paint.NET. AI couldn't understand the prompts I was using well enough to generate what I wanted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Lol cool. It reminds me of 2016 when I checked the Republican party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump. Then I checked the Democratic party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump but with a scary red hue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So, here's a thought.

Instead of complaining, get active at a local level. Start doing shit, instead of complaining that other people should do shit. Be a local activist. Run for office. Work in person to persuade people. Get backing. Shake hands, kiss babies, meet people. And then? Vote for the best choices that you have.

If you want shit to change, you can't complain on-line, you have to get off your ass and do something.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tried that, all I got for my trouble was a total disillusionment with the American voting public.

Americans, generally, do not care, and I can't convince them that they should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can. But you need to engage them one on one, and you need to find out what's important to them, what frustrates them, and why. And then build on that. It takes empathy, and not faked empathy. It's not a short conversation, like asking someone to donate to Greenpeace on a sidewalk in Brooklyn. It's deep canvassing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on."

One-on-one might be effective, but it can't scale. There's no hope for the most heavily propagandized country on Earth that doesn't start with an end to the incentive to lie for profit, I.E. Capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It does scale, but it doesn't scale directly.

For the most part, people change based on relationships, not raw information. In general, you can't counter a belief simply by presenting overwhelming information. (This is one of the only areas where Trump is a savant; he's actively fostered a parasocial relationship with his cultists. They believe that they have a strong social relationship with him, so they're inoculated against information that's critical or negative of Trump.) What this means is that ideas can be contagious, and can spread through relationships. If you are able to use you relationship with your parents to help them understand why e.g. Trump is terrible for the country, then they can, in turn, spread that to their friends.

While I appreciate your desire to abolish capitalism, in the case of fascism, it's not money, but power that's at play. Even if you eliminated all profit motive, people would still shill for Trump because they think that they can get some kind of benefit that isn't necessarily monetary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Money and power are equivalent, hence my identification of the problem as Capitalism. Billionaire-owners who can afford to run a propaganda machine as a loss-leader are also to be abolished.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

So, what EXACTLY do you think is my purpose in creating propaganda like this post?

And why do you assume I am not doing more?

Is it projection?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

As an enlightened I must object.

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