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[–] [email protected] 259 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Turn them all into housing we desperately need

“But office building pipes aren’t set up for that!”

Okay so make communal housing/bathrooms for cheaper rent or invest in expanding the plumbing

“But that’s too expensive!”

More expensive than $800 billion??

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

they'd never do that. then they'd be killing the housing bubble as well. think of the investors!

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds generally positive to me.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why not. Cheaper rent for ailing urban areas, and more incentives for residential construction.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus people commuting less = less pollution and less congestion.

Good for people, good for the planet, bad for profit for some.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

Yeah but less pollution in the sky means people can see the clouds, and that’s where my data is stored. 😡 I don’t want people seeing my data.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Alternative headline: remote work adds billions into workers' pockets and an immeasurable amount of happiness

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Convert it to affordable housing. You made a bad investment corporate America, kindly eat shit. If you need us, will be working, from home.

[–] ciapatri 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Nah let's just pump out more propaganda articles on why WFH is bad. /s

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Time to practice the rugged capitalism that corporations preach. You want good workers? Follow them.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that explains why they're going to such great lengths to convince us that talking about Game of Thrones around a water cooler is such a tremendous benefit to humankind...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At our office they are really pushing the "socializing" aspect by having a "gaming lunch" once a month. And by gaming lunch I mean they put out a few board games in the kitchenette that no one touches because we get 30 minutes to eat before having to work at a soulless corporation. But hey at least middle management is happy now they can walk around making sure you are working instead of being at home.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

All workers are required to enjoy 30 minutes of mandatory social engagement at a designated "Fun Area". Enjoyment activities can include: hearty laughter, corporate value appreciation, appropriate camaraderie. If the enjoyment you wish to experience is outside of these allowed forms, please speak to your department's Enjoyment Adjustment Officer.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strange way to frame it. It sounds to me like businesses are saving $800 billion in unnessicary expenses.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Someone is holding that bag, though. Unfortunately for us, the people holding that bag have the kind of money to make our lives hell just for a fraction of a percentage point of value for their bottom line.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who will think of the landlords?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The government.... The government will think of the landlord's and your tax money will be the salve for the wounds.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (26 children)

And there it is. This is the reason why so many companies are insisting on RTO. The C-level bosses are being pressured by their ultra rich friends who own the land to justify their high real estate valuations and rent so they can continue to make more money. They're happy to do it too... No compromise for them... Most of them are old conservative fucks that are probably angry at all the technology disconnecting them from their ability to interrupt their workers whenever they feel like it, so they can dump their stress, anger and frustration on their subordinates by reprimanding them without just cause.

It's the same old story, rich folks screwing over the common poors for their own selfish reasons to their own self-serving ends. Progress? No problem, as long as it makes them more money, costs them less in expenses, and gives them more power over the rest of us.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Corporations: get your booty back into the office so it’s not empty
Also corporations: we’ve laid off your team in favor of AI, it was a tough but necessary choice due to costs
The empty office building: ???

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good. Developers can buy them on the cheap and renovate into living spaces

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Most of the time it's more economical to tear them down than to convert them. The plumbing work needed is probably the most expensive part but then you only have windows along the outside walls. I suppose you could have large common areas in the center.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And homelessness is on the rise. Whatever should we do?

I know! Ban homeless encampments! Yeah!

Edit: but first let's fire 15% of our workforce and then give ourselves a few million in bonuses.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Come on you rich idiots, convert those offices into something useful and they'll be valuable again.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (28 children)

It's insane that we as a society are even having the debate between pushing capital investment strategies to adapt and come into the 21st century or dragging globally-distributed workers back to the 20th century just to avoid short-term pain and costs associated with updating outdated laws, tax incentives, and capital business practices.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

when my shit gets wiped out its "a market correction". let's see if this is "a market correction" or a "crisis" that requires federal intervention (read: a bunch of your money stolen at gunpoint and given to the people who made bad investments)

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

Finally something my generation can contribute to

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those poor commercial real estate investors

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hence why "they" are against wfh

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Oh no!!!

Anyway.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Let it burn!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Awesome, some of my favourite clubs were sold off to be used as offices. Can we turn them back into clubs now?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Sounds more like an overvalued market that’s being corrected.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a bunch of Herman Miller chairs are gonna be available for cheap

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Maybe we could get them converted to residential units to get cheaper housing.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yet they still want us in the office...

I work remote twice a week, which is nice, but I seriously wonder why I even have to go to the office the other three days.

Most of who I communicate with to do my job is not even in my location, so I'm regularly using Microsoft teams and WebEx. Also all the programs are accessible on my work laptop from home.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They are starting the force people back to work at my company. Apparently a location had a fight break out and police called because of an argument over a spot. There isn't enough room at these places so they were trying to make people go to an office an hour away instead.

If I were to go into the office I wouldn't have anyone else on my team with me. And if someone were to ask me to do work, I could have easily done it if they sent a message instead of walking by. I also don't eat lunch, so I would just work with headphones in. So I wouldn't contribute to the collaboration that is claimed to take place.

The only reason they want people back in the office is for that control. They don't want people having a good work/life balance. They want you to waste money on gas, time away from your family, and to eat out more often. It would be great if some states would prevent companies from forcing back to office.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

That's all? Let's pump those numbers up...

The estimated total dollar value of commercial real estate was $20.7 trillion as of 2021:Q2.

  • some Google search
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The thing I don't like is that so much of the cost cutting goes to companies. It's not just the office space, it's also furniture, electricity, water and so on.

While the worker save time and costs for transportation they usually don't get any compensation for the wear and tear of their furniture or the need for extra space for work area.

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