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I am a big fan of Tesla. The cars are amazing. Generally I respect Elon, who has a track record of success. I support unions but I would never join one.

I think this is the best quote from the article.

“I don’t know, maybe they will unionize,” he mused. “If Tesla gets unionized it will be because we deserved it, and because we failed in some way.”

Elon has made many employees rich. If they unionize, they jeopardize the benefits that made them rich. I can't see the company agreeing to be as generous when dealing with a union.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

God damn the brain rot on conservatives these days. I seriously didn’t think any intelligent adult would be anti-union, but I guess that could still be true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Unions aren't for everyone, and that's an important principle that protects the negotiating power of unions.

Unions are weakened if you allow management and professionals to unionize or participate in collective bargaining. Unions should only be for unskilled, low-barrier-to-entry labor sectors. Are Tesla factory workers low-skill? I don't know enough about how their factories work to say, but the fact that they're awarding equity to line workers suggests that they don't see it that way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

I personally support the right for others to unionize but I would never join a union. There is zero benefit for me to join a union.

For the average worker I could see the draw but for me there is zero positives to joining a union.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

No bad-faith comments, rule 3. Warning, no ban.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have to ponder why he thinks everyone should be pro-union. In a union I wouldn't be able to negotiate my wage, my bonus, my vacation or a plethora of other things that I can do now. I would be stuck adhering to union rules and procedures as well.

I get for some people who don't have real jobs skills, a union would sound attractive but for someone with a high-demand skill set, I see it as limiting.

[–] MomoTimeToDie 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have to ponder why he thinks everyone should be pro-union

Simple. They want your negotiating power for themselves.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

I admit I am highly educated, trained and good at what I do. If I look at what my coworkers are paid, on average, I make double what they make. Most of my peers are around 180 full packages. I am around 400K full package. WTF would I want to be in a union and make half of what I make? I can also dictate my hours, what I will or won't do, etc. All things I wouldn't be able to in a union.

At my last job, I worked from 9-11 and then from 1-4. Those were the hours I was available when i wasn't traveling. A union would never put up with that crap.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

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Sorry this post does not conform to the rules, specifically Rule 2 concerning Allside's Media Bias Chart.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Grow a fucking personality outside of spamming this for fuck sake

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We reserve the right to make our own judgements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes I know you do, and it's very clear what side of the scales your thumb is on.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well yeah, it's not exactly hidden. I put it in the community name even. I'm honestly confused, did you think I was pretending to be a lefty or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I responded to you elsewhere, I think that makes it clear what my issue is. I hope it helps.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this a conservative forum? I would have never got that from the title or sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] MomoTimeToDie -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh boy the lack of self awareness is astounding

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Hows the view from the peanut gallery buddy?