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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Feels like DDR5 capabilities have been running away from what boards and memory controllers can reasonably support, bar the lowest amount of ranks/channels and non-optimal clock ratios.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And it's so painful for me since my workload is completely memory bandwidth bound but does not scale across multiple sockets, much less multiple nodes.

96 cores per socket? ๐Ÿ˜Ž

12 channels of ram per socket? ๐Ÿคฉ

DDR5-4800? ๐Ÿซ 

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, but what workload doesn't scale across multiple sockets? Gaming?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

A specialized computational fluid dynamics program. And nominally CFD is great to scale across many sockets/systems but it seems this particular program wasn't written to be able to do that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ddr6 and new sockets and boards going to come out very soon probably

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

DDR6 is years away.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

According to what?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ultra-high density chips is exactly what you want to support the largest possible memory amounts and speeds with minimal ranks. With 32 Gib chips, you could build 32 GiB single-rank UDIMMs, or 64 GiB dual-rank.

That means up to 128 GiB of RAM in mini-ITX!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

well technically the high freq chips right now are out of spec and overclocked. people just don't care because chances are good that they work. XMP/EXPO are overclocks but people treat them like standard settings.

so it makes sense that current IMCs and boards are struggling with these speeds since they're far out of the spec they were designed for years ago.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

runs at 1.1v too. It's basically JEDEC 8000. Arrowlake probably should support this next year.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Not just that, that means higher voltage kits with that could be like 8800 CL32.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Those are RDIMMs, not UDIMMs, those won't work on consumer platforms.