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[–] [email protected] 255 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Lemmy political pov: the universe should be free and open source

[–] baked_tea 133 points 2 years ago (9 children)

It specifically needs to run Linux.. also there is a literal war about which distro it should use

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Debian. It should run debian. We should genocide arch users.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You will never stamp us out btw!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

They don't call us the bleeding edge for nothin'

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s the algorithms. Except 4chan where that’s just how it do.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

4chan was simply where everyone banned for extreme views everywhere else went because there were no rules or close to none.

Now as algorithms of social media sites have been chosen to dictate our daily news cycle, discussion topics and visibility of culture by engagement metrics alone, as are dominated by flashy, extremist content that appeals to our lowest instincts. Before humans curated content by trying to use human reasoning instead of relying on instinct alone. I think we have taken a step backwards in evolution culturally.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Redditors are communists? News to me.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

Image from 2021, I was on reddit then, I am a communist. Checks out

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People with extreme views are also more vocal, so that's what you see. That's why social media is bad for you. If gives you a very distorted view of the world. Most people are able to look at politics with nuance.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This, plus everyone is concerned with engagement. If I say a perfectly normal statement on Facebook or X or whatever, no one will care so no one will comment or interact with it. If I say that Jesus wants us to make America white again, even the people who disagree with me will only be boosting my message by commenting.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Jesus wants us to make America white again

I love this. It's so dumb in so many different ways, but I can easily see people unironically saying it.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (61 children)

Discourse evaporated when the rightwing and Faux "News" declared "compromise" as blasphemy. That's why so many moderate Republicans will still vote along party lines, despite knowing the candidate is batshit crazy. To vote Democrat is to commit suicide to those people.

Edit: was trying to get this comment done before kid woke up from nap and barely made it. Fixed the faux pa.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The media has tried very hard to normalize extremism.

Funny key then

Ducking autocorrect I meant: Don't let them.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (30 children)

Enlightened centrist thoughts intensify

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

People even use centralism as a weapon as well though. They push the idea that the correct position in any debate is slap bang in the middle. Sometimes there is a demonstrably correct answer, and sitting in the middle is a bad thing.

But they'll argue to the death that sitting on the fence is the best thing to do in every situation. I've had people claim that the Ukrainians should just negotiate with Russia (assuming that would be even be possible) because that would be the middle option between fighting them and surrendering.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Its probably because extremists don't feel comfortable expressing their views in their everyday life, so they do it online instead, where they have some anonymity or at least don't face the same backlash as they would if they were to voice their opinions at work or at a bar or something.

Also, controversial takes get more engagement, which means more ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Internet also helps gather these people together.

In the past if you were a "weird person" you would not find too many people that resonated with you and eventually many would just "normalize".
Now doesn't matter what kind of shitty take you have, there are always some group of people who thinks the same and will echoing each other

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

Social media politics is confirmation bias by design.

A few of my opinions that are less popular here:

  • Unions are not a perfect solution.
  • landlords are not inherantly bad and it's not a "sit back and cash in" type of job.
  • Bridled Capitalism is a better system than the comunism we've tried so far.

I have no desire to debate any of those here. I talk politics with friends and in person and I try to remain skeptical especially of facts that happen to go my way.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

One factual point: we haven't tried communism, we tried socialism. Communism was more of a faraway ideal.

Not debating substance of the claims, as debate not asked for.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Really benign obvious thoughts don't spur engagement. The fringe political viewpoints cause comments and shares and therefor will always look like the only things people are talking about when your method of interacting with content is molded by an algorithm designed to increase engagement to support advertising revenue.

Sounds tin foil hat, but it's actually by design as none of these companies are even remotely non-profit.

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Holy strawman. Ironically, by reducing all those platforms to one extremist opinion he is doing exactly the same thing he is whining about.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

It's an exaggeration about the stereotypical opinions from those platforms

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (17 children)

The more extreme someone's views, the more likely they are to talk about them.

People with moderate views generally avoid talking politics as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Plenty of people with moderate views are passionate about politics and love to talk about it. Its just that they talk about boring stuff like policy positions and numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can tell that this is about pre-Elon Twitter lmao

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I dunno but northern European socialism is looking pretty ok to me lately.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (6 children)

They're voting in anti-immgrant right wing politicians. Same with Germany, Spain, and France

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (13 children)

That's not a fiscal policy. A country or block of countries can be right about 1 thing and wrong about others.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

No country in Northern Europe has Socialism. They have a strong social welfare system on top of a capitalist economy. Aka Social Democracy. Not even close to socialism.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lemmy is a combination of Twitter and Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"Communism is inherently racist and homophobic" or "All white people never fail"?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

True whiteness has never been implemented.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I pictured literal sheep in Halloween masks at first. I thought it was just insane person Facebook.

If I did see a whole flock of sheep in Halloween masks, I would have something to say...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We’re here…we just don’t shout as much the others. We’re probably reading a book quietly in the other room.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Actually, Communism has never existed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Primitive communism has, just not industrial or post industrial.

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