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“There's this wild disconnect between what people are experiencing and what economists are experiencing,” says Nikki Cimino, a recruiter in Denver.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's always been pretty interesting to me how crazy the price of living changes. $1650 a month for a house seems insane to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

$1650/mo for a mortgage in Denver, CO at 5.25% interest is a fantastic price. You're going to find it can be a lot less in a lot of places in the US, but not in highly desirable major metropolitan areas

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

lol i'm looking at paying ~4500/mo for a 3br 2ba ~1300sqft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That is absolutely ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You must be in an area like SF or NYC. Or this is a luxury space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Greater boston area, not inside boston. Malden/Medford/Everett/Chelsea area. Everett and Chelsea are NOT desirable.

The smallest of places are 650k+ here for 2br minimum. You can find 1br condos for 500-600k sometimes.

We're talking about 20-100yo+ homes. Not new construction. There's no "luxury" involved. No yard or acreage. Often no parking included.

[–] Patches 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

At a certain point - isn't it just cheaper to move to a cheaper area?

Not that it's easy. It's what I had to do. 6 hours away from friends/family.

Wages took a 25% hit. Bills took a >50% hit so came up on top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Classy -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In order to keep your mortgage at 1/3 your income, you would need to be making $700,000/yr.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You're calculating it based on take home pay or something? because 1/3rd of 700,000 / 12 = $19,250/mo

Household income is about 230k. Mortgage comes out to less than 50% of take home pay. 230k/12 = 19166/mo (gross) 4500 is 23% of gross income.

Afaik every couple around here by 30 with professional experience and a degree is making over 200k (so 100k per person.) I've seen IT support roles for 100k+ (example from the highest paying company i've ever seen, liberty mutual insurance: https://searchjobs.libertymutualgroup.com/careers?location=Boston%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States&department=Technology&pid=618496295577&domain=libertymutual.com&sort_by=relevance )

[–] Classy 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah I'm probably just dumb and did the math wrong. Those figures are still dizzying to me, as a BA in the Midwest. $100,000/yr is considered pretty decently middle class, I can't imagine anyone here paying $4,500/mo on rent. Maybe I'm just very lucky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

A room is basically ~1k/mo here if you're renting with roommates, maybe up to 1500 if the place is really nice. 1800 for a studio, give or take.

Entry level roles are usually 60kish+ but everybody hits 100k very quickly in any kind of white collar gig. With the pharma industry being here a huge portion of roles in greater Boston are pharma or pharma adjacent with 200k-400k salaries(+bonus/options) which drive up the cost of housing like crazy. Plus some finance and legal too. There's a few ad agencies, plenty of healthcare companies and some world class hospitals. Plus a significant amount of highly desirable colleges that lure in the rich foreign exchange students. It makes for a really expensive housing situation unfortunately.