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I found I2P much better than Tor network, and now it supports BitTorrent protocol too https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent .

Why haven't the pirates migrated to I2P? Why are we still using clearnet and making people backout of seeding cause of DMCA?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably mostly cause:

  • Slow speed unless you you keep your router 24/7
  • People are used to download torrents fast
  • Clearnet has much bigger torrent database
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • if you configure your node correctly, you won't see much difference in bandwidth.
  • i2psnark can be fast.
  • but clearnet comes with an issue of tracking.
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think your response answers the question.

If configured correctly. Can be fast. IMO, once those statements are less conditional and prone to error, we might see the pro of privacy carry more weight.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

People don't understand sometimes how much of a tech-ethusiast bubble we got going on here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so. Only idea what I can get is reduce number of hops.

[–] god 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course. Your idea is THE idea. You CANNOT get mass adoption without a minimal amount of hops. You won't get the hordes of pirates running around reading wikis on how to configure their router for piracy and how to get an i2p provider and how to get an index etc.

Torrenting right now is so broadly adopted because you just download a Torrenting client, click the magnet, click OK and you're good to go.

If you HAD to set up port forwarding, some magnet handling register in windows preferences, just those two would stop the bulk majority of pirates. And that's not even 1/4 of what you have to do to use i2p correctly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a Windows bundle that you download that sets everything up for you. No configuration required.

Install, start, wait 3 min to get integrated into the network, locate your favourite Linux distro on a tracker and click the magnet link. Easy.

On Linux it's a bit more complicated, but that's true for almost everything. Not a lot more, but a little.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a Firefox extension that says up the proxy settings for you, you'll just need to install I2P and start it

[–] god 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which bundle is this? 😌 I shall try it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Got to install Firefox first, then start the easyinstall.

https://geti2p.net/en/download/easyinstall

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of speeds are you seeing per torrent and global with a few torrents running? I didn't try torrenting on I2p yet but even with my node on 24/7 even browsing was hella slow ( i was port forwarded too)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typically around 500kBps I'd say. I've seen speeds in the MBps too, but that's rare.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's quite slow then. I can torrent an entire movie within two minutes or so.

Edit: Getting 12+ MiB/s with a popular movie from 2006.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that is really slow and they didn't say if it was global or a single torrent. 500kbs is slow for one torrent but if 500kbs is all the torrents combined then that is extremely slow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A single one. Anonymity makes it slower for sure. Can't tell you the global max, because I don't know. If you trust your vpn to not log stuff or to sell you out, then that will always be faster.

Speed is not a problem for me, but everyone's different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's availability? What are you able to find, and do you find it the same way as usual, or is that separate as well?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I usually find what I need, but if I don't then that's not a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's fair, I wonder how much faster it'll get if I2P gets a ton more nodes and more people seeding torrents

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Chicken or egg problem isn't it. Most of these issues wouldn't exist if more people used it I feel.