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submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago

I thought it was pretty well known that the Nazi party destroyed the first thing we would consider a Trans hospital?

She should have done a tiny bit of googling.

Third result on Google was the right wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Iirc, one of the most famous pictures of a book burning was right outside that hospital, and the books came from inside it.

Non gender conforming people were the first group they came after.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

The vast majority of people dont know this. Its an obscure fact that people share regularly in forums like Lemmy, but are not part of any mainstream discussion of the holocaust.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was news to me and I feel I have a fairly decent understanding of nazi atrocities, but I also wouldn't be confident in denying it without first researching.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Trade unions and lgbt clubs were attacked within the first three months after Hitler became the Chancellor. Already in the first month trade union offices and lgbt clubs were destroyed by the SA and people were sent to camps.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes. And also it should be known that this isnt part of the Holocaust. The Holocaust is the genocide against Jews. But the Nazis persecuted lots of groups of people, and committed all kinds of crimes against humanity.

Not every heinous Nazi crime is "the Holocaust". But it's just as awful and denying it should lead to a social ban against the denier.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Which brings to question, why the genocides of the concentration camps are quite deliberately reduced to the holocaust in many perceptions.

The German government denied adequate compensation to LGBT concentration camps survivors to this day and only in 2017 they opened for legal rehabilitation. So until 2017 someone that was convicted for homosexuality by the Nazis and put into a concentration camp was considered a convict.

Equally political activists, Sint and Roma and disakled people (or people ascribes as being so) faced similiar issues of non recognition and non compensation.

And it is no surprise that the option for homosexuals was only opened when almost all the surviving victims have died of old age. Focusing the spotlight on the Holocaust was done to deflect from the continued discrimination and subjugation of other victim groups.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I was going to argue that that was a slightly reductive statement because of all the other groups that the Nazis genocided, but I looked it up and you are correct.

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