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My wonderful co-admin @[email protected] has made a modification to the downvote system. It's not currently enabled, but if we were to turn it on, downvotes would be available for use, but they would weigh 5 times less than an upvote.

Which is to say, it would take 5 downvotes to counter an upvote. This would let downvotes have an impact on what appears in the hot topics sort, but hopefully mitigate some of the more negative impacts of downvoting.

Are there any strong objections from Blahaj Lemmy users to enabling downvotes with this modification?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this apply to all votes:

  1. by local users on local posts
  2. by local users on global posts
  3. by global users on local posts

I'm curious how it works when factoring in other instances' interconnectivity.

Also are other instance users currently able to downvote posts on this instance?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of the box, lemmy treats all votes as equal whether they're from the local instance or whether they've federated, and all the votes do is change the order of the posts in views that use scores as part of the calculations. (hot, active and top)

This change is simply a change in the weight of downvotes so they have less impact to the score of a post. It won't otherwise change their behaviour.

Also are other instance users currently able to downvote posts on this instance?

Depends what you mean. At the moment, our instance ignores downvotes that federate to us and we ignore downvotes when calculating the score of external posts that do use them. Which is to say, anything you view through this instance is in effect, viewed as if downvotes didn't exist.

However, instances that don't ignore downvotes calculate them in to the post score, which means they will sort posts in a different order.

So if you make a post to an external community that allows downvotes and then get downvoted, people on instances with downvotes will see them, but we won't

You can see more about the ranking formula at https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So if you make a post to an external community that allows downvotes and then get downvoted, people on instances with downvotes will see them, but we won’t

It would be nice to see the number of downvotes & upvotes on external communities just for the purpose of knowing what other people are seeing, but still have posts sorted with disregard for the downvotes.

Although I'd imagine that's a bit complicated (if even possible at all)