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France’s appetite for frogs’ legs is endangering species in Asia, say campaigners (www.theguardian.com)

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Scientists and vets are urging the president to afford the world’s most traded species better protections

France’s hunger for frogs’ legs is “destructive to nature” and endangering amphibians in Asia and south-east Europe, a group of scientists and vets have warned.

More than 500 experts from research, veterinary and conservation groups have called on Emmanuel Macron, the French president, to “end the overexploitation of frogs” and afford the most traded species better protections.

The EU imports the equivalent of 80-200 million frogs each year, the majority of which are consumed in France. Most come from wild populations in Indonesia, Turkey and Albania, as well as from farms in Vietnam, according to a study by Robin des Bois and Pro Wildlife, two conservation nonprofits that organised the letter.

The practice is “not at all in line” with the EU’s wildlife strategy, said Sandra Altherr, the head of science at Pro Wildlife. “It’s absurd: the natural frog populations here in Europe are protected under EU law. But the EU still tolerates the collection of millions of animals in other countries – even if this threatens the frog populations there.”

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The thing with frogs is that they're damned good at reproduction. Of course some of them will be threatened, I'm not doubting it even though the article doesn't present evidence. But yeah, farming shouldn't be too hard. For many frog species at least.

[–] Varyk 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My doubt in endangered frog populations comes from the lack of evidence in the article and anecdotal personal experience.

I've traveled to many countries in Asia in recent years, not once having seen the frog dishes crossed off the menu while other dishes frequently are has the ingredients for that dish become scarce.

I was in Cambodia recently and literally had to stop walking for a while because the path I was walking on had thousands of little baby frogs migrating somewhere.

I would need to see you some hard evidence for troubles in asian frog populations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

cute

the baby frogs I mean

[–] Varyk 2 points 9 months ago

Ha,yea it was great. I thought they were crickets or something at first and was trying to avoid stepping on them and then I crouched down and looked and there were like thousands of these little frogs hopping across the road and I just chilled out and watched them for 10 minutes or something.

It was funny too, cuz it was on a side dirt path of the town that I was walking to that had my favorite frog restaurant.

The ciiiiiiircllllle, circle of liiiiife.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The frogs bred for consumption are typically bull frogs or pig frogs. These are not the endangered frogs. Endangered frogs are tiny, their entire body weight is probably less than a single leg of a bull frog and its not commercially viable.

The endangered frogs are native to places like South America, where they are suffering from a loss of habitat and from chemical pesticide/herbicide run off from farms that are killing them off. In other regions they also suffer from light pollution.

I doubt its that the French are to blame, especially when east asia has a huge consumption of frog legs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Nice. Thanks for some info, and yeah in with you on the doubt that it's the French. Single handedly, at least.