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That might have been true a decade ago. I don't actually know. I do know that modern init scripts for modern alternatives to systemd are barely longer than systemd service scripts though. So that's kind of an insane take.
can you give examples of some? Not trying to bd sarcastic, i do just want to see what alternatives are doing.
Sure, that seems pretty reasonable. Here's the init script for sddm:
That's it. That's the whole thing.
That's a pretty simple one though, so here's Alsa. It's a more complex one:
code
That's definitely longer than a systemd service, but you'd have to write an awful lot of them to be more code than all of systemd. Overall the entire /etc/init.d folder on my PC where all the init scripts even for the stuff I'm not using are stored is a grand total of 147.7 KiB. Not exactly an unmanageable amount of code, in my humble opinion.
Its certainly easier to read than most old init scripts and I can see why some distros and openbsd would pick it over systemd for more control. I'm not likely to pick a distro that uses it anytime soon, but i can see why some do.
That's totally fair. I'm not some weird evangelist or anything. I just like options and think OpenRC is kinda neat. There's nothing wrong with systemd, and honestly it's more work using other options. Not for the actual init system, but for some of the other stuff systemd does. I've had to learn cron, and that has been... interesting. It feels like all of the documentation around cron just assumes you already know how cron works. I'm still not sure if I'm doing it right, but I've had a good time and my computer works, and really that's good enough for me.
Almost looks like something taken from ASL linux.
OK luddite.
Luddites were champions of the working class and have been smeared by capitalist for over a century. I'd be proud to be called a Luddite.
(In before history nerds um, actually me: chill..I know)
OK commie.
Aww sweetie. You're cute.
I am. A lot of people fail to see that.
The luddites were right though, technology was being used to lessen their quality of life and make them dependent on a new set of structures that they weren’t familiar with and which were failing them on a massive scale…
Cope harder.
It’s not cope to know history.
People don’t oppose technology because they’re irredeemable backwards imbeciles who hate progress, they oppose it because they see it as having a negative impact on their lives.
In the specific example you invoked as a pejorative, people destroyed mills because they saw them as part of a system of control that was forcing them into cities where life was much worse. Years later that period in British history was called the enclosures and it’s been studied endlessly from a bunch of angles, almost all of which showed the Luddite assessment to be correct.
I know you just wanted to use the funny word to ridicule people who don’t like systemd, but it doesn’t mean what you think it means and makes you look dumber than if you had just ripped off a long string of slurs against sysv script users.
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