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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What impact are they having, please be specific here.

Destroying parts of the Houthi capability, shooting down missiles and drones.

Sure, US can beat a navy that plays by the same rules, but the reality is that there are cheaper options available nowadays.

Yes that's what I meant with this: "True. This and Ukraine war has kinda shown how poorly a traditional navy works against drones especially. But I think Somali boat attacks and stuff like that is an even older example of how hard that sort of uneven fighting is."

So far, the story is that Yemen is achieving their stated goals and US is not.

I mean if the goal was to make products more expensive then absolutely.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No actual evidence that US managed to destroy parts of Yemeni capability. Shooting down missiles and drones isn't having an impact because shipping is still being interdicted.

And yes, that was literally the goal stated by Ansar Allah, they're blockading shipping from Israel and countries that support Israel in solidarity with Palestine. Their blockade is achieving economic damage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No actual evidence that US managed to destroy parts of Yemeni capability.

But Houthis have confirmed some of the strikes. Not everything, there's of course plenty of strikes they haven't confirmed but that were confirmed by satellite. I'm not sure either side would claim the strikes have had no impact, just that Houthis think they can continue this longer than the US can.

And yes, that was literally the goal stated by Ansar Allah, they’re blockading shipping from Israel and countries that support Israel in solidarity with Palestine. Their blockade is achieving economic damage.

In that case they've set a pretty reasonable and achievable goal. I thought the object was to stop the Israel attack on Palestine or something tbh.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

US and Saudis have been trying to bomb Yemen into submission for like 8 years now with nothing to show for it. I don't see why a few more air strikes are going to change anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What part are you replying to with this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm referring to US doing strikes in Yemen, this is nothing new and this strategy showed no results over past 8 years. No reason to expect anything different going forward.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, you're talking about who lasts longer? I thought you were talking about the no impact thing and was confused.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's both, Yemenis have shown that they've been able to last for 8 years without any clear impact from the bombing strategy. The impact from Yemeni blockade is visible, we see economic costs for the west. The impact from bombing in terms of Yemen being able to pursue its policies is not clear because we don't see their policies change or become less effective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So when you meant no impact you were thinking of in the way that if they can still shoot missiles that means there has been no impact?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, I'm saying the strikes are not achieving a change in behavior or capability. So, there is no impact in terms of what Yemen is doing whether US carries strikes out or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess I thought you meant the strikes were having no impact as in genuinely zero impact

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm sure they're having impact killing civilians and destroying infrastructure in Yemen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Missile firing infrastructure and capability is sorta the target. Luckily first civilian death was just yesterday and so far I think that's the only one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If missile firing infrastructure is the target, then it's pretty clear that US is not capable of doing any meaningful damage to this infrastructure. Again, the original point was that US is unable to achieve its stated goals while Yemen is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, I just misunderstood it as a more literal "no impact" than what you were saying.