this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2024
408 points (99.0% liked)

politics

19248 readers
2041 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…
US Declaration of Independence

I disagree with ~~3~~ (e: actually 4) words in that sentence, but I’m struggling to find a single phrase that modern conservatives agree with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Republicans in 2024:

❌ Form a more perfect Union

❌ Establish Justice

❌ Insure domestic Tranquility

🙄Provide for the common defense

❌ Promote the general Welfare

🖕Secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The 16* Characteristics of Fascism:

  1. Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible” leader who never admits mistakes.

  2. Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.

  3. Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.

  4. White Replacement “Theory” used to show that democratic ideals of freedom and equality are a threat. Oppose any initiatives or institutions that are racially, ethnically, or religiously harmonious.

  5. Disdain for human rights while seeking purity and cleansing for those they define as part of the nation.

  6. Identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Imprison and/or murder opposition and minority group leaders.

  7. Supremacy of the military and embrace of paramilitarism in an uneasy, but effective collaboration with traditional elites. Fascists arm people and justify and glorify violence as “redemptive”.

  8. Rampant sexism.

  9. Control of mass media and undermining “truth”.

  10. Obsession with national security, crime and punishment, and fostering a sense of the nation under attack.

  11. Religion and government are intertwined.

  12. Corporate power is protected and labor power is suppressed.

  13. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts not aligned with the fascist narrative.

  14. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Loyalty to the leader is paramount and often more important than competence.

  15. Fraudulent elections and creation of a one-party state.

  16. Often seeking to expand territory through armed conflict.

I’d put green ticks on nearly all of those, and the only ones I wouldn’t are only because they don’t have the unilateral power to do them yet. I’m confident they will do them the moment they can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Surely gerrymandering and making voting as difficult as possible for working individuals gets at least partial credit to 15, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and J6 and the rhetoric that followed gets them all the way there. Trump has literally told his voters on multiple occasions there’s no point in voting because it’s all fraudulent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool hope they all take his advise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Same, but I’m concerned his real point was instead of voting, they should go straight to terrorism. The ballot box doesn’t work, so the next step is the ammo box (or whatever that phrase was).

I think the point isn’t so much just stop voting, but stop voting and start shooting when voting doesn’t work since we’ve sabotaged it.