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BitWarden
and/or Vaultwarden as a selfhosted alternative.
Vaultwarden is a great piece of self hosted server software, which meshes with Bitwarden software perfectly. And for people who can't self host, IMO Bitwarden gives you more than enough bang for your buck with their own hosting plans.
It's one of the few examples of software being open source and ethically making money regardless. (For comparison, Standard Notes has tried pretty hard to make sure non-paying users have an inferior experience even if they self-host literally everything.)
<$1/mo for bitwarden hosted premium is a no brainer for me
I was really disappointed about standard notes' plans. Took me forever to get everything set up to self host, only to find I couldn't even use markdown unless I bought a license? Silly.
Yeah, the value of buying a hosted service should be the fact you don't have to worry about hosting it yourself. Not a tiny piece of Javascript that was grabbed from a third party developer anyway.
I can see what they're trying to do, but the experience leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
I'm excited that the bitwarden phone apps are getting a brand new native version for ios and Android soon.
the current version is not native?
No, its built on a Microsoft framework, that MS has decided to change recently. That's why its sluggish and they can't add features like passkeys to the current client apps.
Standard notes is very unethical. They want you to pay for open source software even if you self host. Very scummy.
Tried, and not a fan of. The organizing features are kind of not what I expected. Sticking to KeepassXC for now.
I actually thought the organization stuff is pretty good, coming from keepassxc myself. The way we have it set up is that each of the members of our family all have VW accounts, and we have a common organization shared among us for stuff we all use (e.g. home devices). It's all in one installation, so it's pretty convenient. I don't think I can do the same as easily with keepass.
That being said, keepass is a really solid piece of software. I'd recommend it myself.
I'm curious, what features is it lacking that you want to see?
First is the organizing feature. It doesn't let me to have sub folders which I need to categorize items.
Second is the TAN management to store my MFA backup codes. A feature the original Keepass have but KeepassXC doesn't. You can use notes to mimic but it doesn't auto expire after use, i.e. more manual work.
Bitwarden + aegis for everything possible.
Authelia or authentik for self hosted stuff.
Something tells me they'll enshitiffy too. It would make me uneasy storing all my passwords with a for profit corp, on their servers.
They've already open-sourced all the best parts, and there are independent OSS projects based on that. If BE fucks with their user base, they'd be messing with their livelihood.
pass.