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Trump's Team 'Literally Popping Champagne' Over Supreme Court Taking Up Immunity Claim
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Yes he can. Unfortunately. We all get to watch this birth of a dictator unfold in slow motion if Trump wins.
How? Given the powers that the Special Monitor has, how could he possibly avoid paying?
RNC certainly doesn't seem like a likely option right now, and nobody else has ponied up the money.
I always figured the Jan 6 ones were a long shot, but these other two cases are done. He's going to have to pay, and he can't get an appeal unless he pays, thanks to NY law.
That's why it's different from the federal ones.
ETA: and he can't just not pay, because the Special Monitor has a court-ordered obligation to ensure he pays his court debts. She'll just seize his assets, which she has the power to do.
It is different, because he's not the one with the power over his finances. Having a court-appointed Special Monitor who oversees every financial transaction is not remotely the same as just expecting him to pay out of common decency (which he doesn't have). Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack.
If he becomes dictator, of course it won't matter, but that's a future possibility, not a current reality.
see? It's happening again. Donnie gets yet another pause, and then he'll get another, and another, until he's president and makes the whole thing go away. Delay, delay, delay, obstruct, pause, file useless motions that each need to be deliberated before they can be overturned, etc. etc.
It doesn't matter that there's a special monitor. Nothing matters. Dump won't face any consequences; It's the one thing he's good at.
That's called a slippery slope fallacy. This reduction of the bond fucking sucks, but he has 10 days to pay it (and we'll see if he does), and that doesn't ultimately mean he's off the hook.
I get your cynicism, but that does not justify your position that he's going to ultimately escape, unless you are a legal expert and know more than the other legal experts.
It's possible (though not likely) the final amount will be reduced by the appellate court, but Judge Engoron's behavior and judgement was above board. Trump will not escape unscathed, regardless.
This case isn't some goofy reading of the Constitution to justify why churches can revive segregation. It's a standard business fraud case, and the facts speak for themselves.
What part of breaking the rules do you not get?
I don't think you understand what the Special Monitor has the power to do, and what role she serves in her monitorship.
I don't think it matters.
We are talking about a motherfucker who openly proposes becoming a dictator. A bastard who already tried to overthrow the federal government. A state appointee moving some paper around would not meaningfully withstand all three branches of the US government making shit up to do The Idiot's bidding.
I mean sure. If you're arguing that it won't matter when he's a dictator, I can agree. But he's not one yet, and he doesn't have the opportunity until November. These state crimes have already been adjudicated, so the clock is ticking on them.
He can pardon himself. And he will.
I thought both were state charges and only federal charges could be pardoned?
That's correct. Only the NY Governor can pardon state crimes in NY
These are state crimes. He can't pardon himself from them.
ETA: I was referring to the conversation context, which is his financial crimes, not the article, which are federal crimes.
You cannot pardon a judgement in a civil case.