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it won't take long for big companies to come knocking, trying to take over our communities. what's the plan of action then? do we have to fear suing?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

this is why its important to eventually move the instance to the edge, its cool to do federation at this level now but there is too much liability for everyone longterm to have these chokepoints. If everyone is running the software themselves and we are all just sending encrypted messages to eachother over the internet it becomes very difficult to stop. This is one of the advantages P2P has over federation. However you do get a perf hit doing this. We need a middle ground.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Definitely. P2P is the way to go, but has its costs. It would be really good to see a semi-federated/P2P hybrid or some other architecture that allows some of the best of both worlds.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is this what element does? You go through the encryption ceremony with someone in a DM, it prob still goes through the server but there is no reason that it could not go to P2P mode once the certificate exchange has completed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I will honestly have to look into it more. It seemed interesting, but I have not done a deep dive into how it works.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ive been on it for about 2 years but only use it a little bit, ill be firing up a server for my instance this week. you can do even stronger encryption and run bots to your hearts content with your own server.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

end-to-end encrypted chat rooms mainly. always been a supporter of federated systems, though was not sure if these were going to catch.

its essentially fediverse's version of discord with better privacy options.

[โ€“] planish 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But you still either have to have each person ship their posts to everyone who wants to see them, direct, or else you have someone out there gasp operating a social media service without a license. And who knows who could be 12 and in Utah.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

people need to learn to PKI, i can't be assed to figure everything out for people, its not like its not all published out there. you want to be the unbiased processor, get to deploying. you are on the wrong network btw.