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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I am not here to debate whether public executions are right or wrong but

“Carrying out executions in public adds to the inherent cruelty of the death penalty and can only have a dehumanising effect on the victim and a brutalising effect on those who witness the executions,”

If brutalizing here means people are gonna be shit scared after watching this when even thinking about killing someone, then this is a very bad argument

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (38 children)

It does not reduce murder or crime in general - but it DOES devalue human life

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

No. What happens is the spectators get severely desensitized to violence. Especially if the spectators are young malleable teenagers. And suddenly sawing someone's head off in front of a live broadcast becomes just another day on the job.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The brutalizing effect is the opposite: by seeing this kind of violence, people are more likely to normalize it and engage in violence themselves. That's the hypothesis, anyway.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Huh? After seeing this people will want to kill people? I am talking extra-judicial killing here

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Suppose the theory would be that a spectator doesn't picture himself in the shoes of the executed. Instead they get used to the idea that killing someone isn't so crazy, if they think they deserve it.

I could believe this, particularly if it's on some subconscious level. The rational mind might say "that could be me, I better be careful", but getting desensitized might get rid of some fundamental revulsion. I'd also think the people at risk of committing murder are not likely to trend toward rational thinking, at least not in the moment of the crime.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

never mind the fact that the taliban also does this for sexual assault victims and gay people not just murderers.....