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Shamima Begum: Woman who joined ISIS as a teen loses challenge against the removal of her UK citizenship (www.cnn.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A woman who left the United Kingdom to join ISIS at the age of 15 has lost her Court of Appeal challenge over the decision to remove her British citizenship.

Shamima Begum flew to Syria in 2015 with two school friends to join the terror group. While there, she married an ISIS fighter and spent several years living in Raqqa.

Begum then reappeared in al-Hawl, a Syrian refugee camp, in 2019. She made international headlines as an “ISIS bride” after pleading with the UK government to be allowed to return to her home country for the birth of her son.

Then-Home Secretary Sajid Javid removed her British citizenship in February that year, and Begum’s newborn son died in a Syrian refugee camp the following month. She told UK media she had two other children prior to that baby, who also died in Syria during infancy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't know about that. That seems like a extreme slippery slope.

There is a difference where you are joining enemy combatants, ones with active military operations who are shooting at citizens of the home country.

So the only way the metaphor would be comparable is if the gay armada decides to rise up against a country.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

All I have to add is that when I was fifteen I wasn't as smart as I thought I was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I was 15 yo too but I absolutely didn't have the means or resources to flee a country and join another country.

That's a LOT of micro decisions there, followed by choosing to stay for years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I absolutely didn’t have the means or resources to flee a country and join another country.

Neither did she.

Shamima Begum: Spy for Canada smuggled schoolgirl to Syria

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I did not know that. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why don't you link the other articles of what she did in Syria herself?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Because they're not relevant to the point I was addressing. How is that not obvious?

I have elsewhere said that she should face justice here. There has been no trial, no accounting for what she did and why, and no opportunity for the Yazedi she was complicit in enslaving to have their say about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The LGBTQ bit wasn't maybe the best metaphor. But the point stands. They've done this, and now they can easily do it again, and with less cause.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

The law in this wording was here in 1980. Previous laws that allow stripping of citizenship based on security threats have been around for 100 years. Yearly 20 people get this treatment. Yet it hasn't been a problem, since they don't have a PR company.