this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2024
1607 points (98.8% liked)
People Twitter
5283 readers
1152 users here now
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
- Mark NSFW content.
- No doxxing people.
- Must be a tweet or similar
- No bullying or international politcs
- Be excellent to each other.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Zoomers lean more left than previous generations, in larger quantities and as a percentage, even including increased far-right zoomers as compared to previous generations.
Modern pop music being materialistic and conformist is just the music industry, there's tons of anticapitalist modern punk if you look for it.
That's actually now true, at least where I live. The girls tend to be more left leaning while the boys tend to be more right leaning.
The difference between genders on political affiliation is small, but present, yes, but overall the trend is to the left.
That's not really what I mean.
Look I turned 40 a few months ago an a few weeks ago I got a newspaper subscription, somehow I turned into my father...
Anyway, a few days ago I was reading this article and it was about (Dutch) GenZ (I want to say kids but adults is probably also true).
The article was about how the GenZ girls are mostly left and pretty far left. Old people will probably describe them as woke.
But what was pretty interesting (and maybe scary) to me is that a lot of the GenZ boys are pretty conservative. Lots of them follow "alpha male" influencers and lots of them even really like Andrew Tate. They sort of believe in this alpha get money and girls mindset. They have some graphs about other countries, where in south Korea it had the biggest gap between boys on the right and girls on the left.
I just looked it up (my newspaper also can be viewed digitally)
It's in Dutch but its probably understandable (mannen are males, vrouwen are females).
This is the source but it's dutch and behind a paywall
http://digitalekrant.trouw.nl/trouw/2101/article/1987524/34/1/render/?token=0ba4dd5e64ebc6c01e4705ca84dbe8c9&vl_app_id=be.persgroep.red.mobile.android.trn&vl_app_version=19.1.0&vl_platform=android
This is the head of the image translated
Political gap between young men and women has grown In many countries, young men (18-29) have become more conservative in recent years, while young women have become more progressive. Score: the percentage of progressive minus conservative young adults, based on various long-term studies.
South Korea is actually a pretty major anomaly. A combination of incredible misogyny and a rising incel population has forced women to be far more radical to protect themselves, it's an extreme reactionary slant.
Overall, though, Gen Z is more to the left. The number of fascists is larger, but the number of moderate right wingers is lower, and the number of moderate left and leftists is higher.
Do you have a source on that? Like to know more
Speaking to Koreans myself, I have a lot of contact with Korean expats. However, this seems to be an okay source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/stark-gender-inequality-south-korea-hostility-feminism-growing-rcna59747
👍 thanks
Gen Z more likely to deny climate change than millennials
Less likely to approve of NFL protests
Same on gay and interracial marriage
The only thing they really differ on is pronouns which Zoomers always swing way conservative on with overwhelming approval
You're just repeating what I said and misinterpreting the statistics. Gen Z is far more radical on both ends, but the median Gen Z person is more to the left than previous generations. Gen Z is not more conservative overall, just the fringe end is more fascist.
But the stats don’t put them further left than millennials
If we only focus on the left then we have 56 thinking it’s man made for millennials and 54 for Zoomers. So where do you get more left from?
If we say it’s margin of error and they are the same then where do you get more left from?
More radicalization on both ends, like I said. If the average conservative millenial isn't as insane as the average conservative Gen Z, it can give you the illusion that there are more.
Easy enough.
I see
But the "leaning more to the left" comes from "you promised and didn't deliver so fuck you" place. And it's not only young people. We've been told for decades that "If you work hard you'll succeed", you have to defend your country so your country can help you when you need it" and shit like that. But those are lies the upper class tells everyone else.
Well, sure, but I'd say radicalization increasing on both ends is more because of the general decay of Capitalism. As Capitalism gets increasingly fucked, people seek answers, and while the general trend is to the left, there are also more fascists.