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Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war

Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents by greatness, trailing even “historically calamitous chief executives” who failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.

Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent, Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.

“Biden’s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor’s hands this fall,” Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.

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[-] [email protected] 157 points 4 months ago

Honestly, if you talk to most presidential historians they will tell you that you need about 20 years to pass before you can accurately assess a president. There's too many unknowns that will come to light only years or decades after a term ends, Eisenhower is a great example of this. So these rankings are likely to change over the years.

Although, having seen Trump's predilection for fraud, decit, and self-serving, I'd be shocked if he rebounds as more information comes out.

[-] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago

In 20 years, we could be up to 48 presidents or more, so you're right, trump's rating could get even lower. Hopefully no one beats him.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago

In 20 years, the number of presidents might not have increased.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Even if the US falls into a dictatorship it's not very likely that Trump makes it to 97.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

good point, surprised he made it through the stresses of being president once.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

It's not stressful when you don't do anything and don't care about anything and others around you.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Exactly he spent four years being applauded and complaining about the food.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

In his eyes that’s called winning.

Also, Fuck Putin, that horrible man.

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