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Obviously I can understand why mysoginists are hated upon, As their belief is all women are trash or men are superior etc. But why are incels also generally hated upon? They are lacking in a way that makes them unable to gey in a relationship, but that shouldn't necessarily mean they are mysoginists, right?

What am I missing here? I haven't ever had a relationship with a woman, but I don't hate all women either. I just consider myself unlucky. Does that make me an incel?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Originally, the label wasn't bad. However, it turns out a lot of pathetic people out there fall into the same description and suddenly the traits they brought along with them shifted the understanding of the words meaning.

Originally it was simply a way for lonely men to get encouragement from their fellow lonely men, hence the "involuntary" part of it all is that they don't want to be in their situation. However, with the evolution of the term and all the d-bags that jumped on it, it now means something almost completely different—certainly not something involuntary, that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

basically it became it's own sub-culture instead of just being a situational label.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The framing of it as involuntary from the get go was misguided even if the subculture started off apparently innocent. It's a blame shifting phrase and implies that some outside force is responsible for said celibacy like it's happening to them or being perpetrated by women.

It's not surprising at all in light of the above, that they hit critical mass and have become legitimately violent. It was a matter of time. The ideology is inherently toxic.