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ipomopsis at 2024-02-14 05:46:34+00:00 ID:
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Any Americans reading this- in Denmark we count total “living” rooms. This is not a 4 bedroom apt, it’s literally 4 rooms. Living room, dining room, 2 bedrooms (kitchen and bath aren’t part of the count.) Laundry is either communal or in the kitchen or bathroom.
Scottybadotty at 2024-02-14 06:58:43+00:00 ID:
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Which we really should change. Makes absolutely no sense to me
Jondare at 2024-02-14 07:22:27+00:00 ID:
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I'd rather everyone else change, our way makes much more sense and gives much more information. A 2 bedroom apartment can technically have literally any amount of extra rooms, where as you know exactly how many rooms a danish 4 room apartment has - hint, it's 4! Not to mention how fluid bedrooms can often be. Sure sole rooms can't easily be used as one, but most can, and all bedrooms can definitely be used for offices or such.
Igotanewpen at 2024-02-14 12:12:12+00:00 ID:
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In Britain the estate agent will say a house has X number of bedrooms and then when you go see the house it is very common that one of the "bedrooms" is too small to fit a bed in there. I don't know why the estate agents love to waste their own and the customer's time.
"But you can use it as a study". Twats!
Then-Pomegranate-632 at 2024-02-14 10:14:24+00:00 ID:
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Only reason I want it to change is that I hate 1 room apartments, should be outlawd beside anything but dorms
Comfortable_Put7812 at 2024-02-14 15:06:36+00:00 ID:
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And WEF wants us to live in a single room cube apartment by 2030, in a SMAAAART CITY, where they can have a chain around our necks, and the camera up our ass, “for being the filthy eaters, who are too expensive to maintain”, meanwhile they have made committees, there who have the power to exterminate you, if you’re too expensive for the societies, and not to forget, the climate’s well-being.😂😂😂😂 Genocide is not only happening in Gaza. World War III, and genocide against Homo-sapien, and then their livestock, started back in 2020 by their first lockdown on humanity .
Comfortable_Put7812 at 2024-02-14 15:07:22+00:00 ID:
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Genocide is not only happening in Gaza. World War III, and genocide against Homo-sapien, and then their livestock, started back in 2020 by their first lockdown on humanity .
KoldKartoffelsalat at 2024-02-14 12:13:46+00:00 ID:
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I lived in one in my young days.
There was a little hallway, a bathroom and a small storage for clothing, etc.
Kitchen and bed in the living room.
It was okay for me when I was single.
Then-Pomegranate-632 at 2024-02-14 12:19:27+00:00 ID:
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I just hate it, and the price for them are really expensive, compared to what you get
Kitesir at 2024-02-14 09:05:43+00:00 ID:
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Can't blame other people for not knowing a danish apartment that says it has 4 rooms really has 24 rooms.
CookieFlux at 2024-02-14 09:10:40+00:00 ID:
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A danish apartment with 4 rooms has: 4 rooms + (kitchen + bathroom+maybe a hallway)
Faulty_grammar_guy at 2024-02-14 09:30:32+00:00 ID:
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4! = 4*3*2*1 = 24
MonochromeInc at 2024-02-14 10:10:31+00:00 ID:
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Er du sikker på at dit brugernavn ikke skulle være factorial grammar guy i stedet?
xibalba89 at 2024-02-14 11:24:53+00:00 ID:
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I don't think you understand how Americans use the term "bedroom". Let me illustrate:
A 4-bedroom house would never have a bunch of extra rooms that aren't dining rooms, kitchens, or bathrooms. Those are things I would expect. And you typically list the bathrooms as well. For example, you would say a "4-bedroom, 2.5 bath" for a house that has 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, but only two showers/bathtubs. I would expect a kitchen and living room, which go without saying. (If the house doesn't have a kitchen, you'd better fucking say it up front, or you're going to have some disappointed potential buyers/renters). And of the 4 bedrooms, it's up to the occupant to decide how they use them (as an office, gameroom, whatever). No architect or builder is going to tell me how to use those rooms! But the Danish way doesn't specify anything, and gives LESS information. Would the house in my example be a 9 room house? What would you assume about a 9 room house?
xibalba89 at 2024-02-14 12:23:22+00:00 ID:
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I explain it below, but you've fundamentally misunderstood the way the "bedrooms" are counted in the States. They are any room that isn't a bathroom, living room, or kitchen. In house I live in now (in Denmark), it's listed as a 5-room house, with one bathroom. In the States, it would be a 4-bedroom house. The only difference is the kitchen / dining room / living room, which is all one continuous room. In the States, none of these would be counted as bedrooms anyhow. The other rooms are currently used as three bedrooms and an office. The previous occupants used the room we use as an office as a bedroom, and one of the bedrooms for storage. No fundamental difference between the two systems. Neither system accounts for the scullery (bryggers), which isn't big enough to be considered a room by either system. So there's not much difference between the systems, but the American system has a bit more clarity, since you don't have to guess about kitchen and dining rooms there.
SimonGray at 2024-02-14 07:25:24+00:00 ID:
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Nah, the Americans should be the ones to change. Counting total rooms is much more logical than just counting bedrooms.
And those pesky Americans should also start counting floors from level 0... and switch to metric while they're at it!
xibalba89 at 2024-02-14 12:28:06+00:00 ID:
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Yes, because it makes lots of sense to say "I'm on the first floor of a 3-story building" when you mean the second floor. (That's how ordinal numbers work - we start with first, not zeroth.)
SimonGray at 2024-02-14 12:48:59+00:00 ID:
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Kinda silly to start a discussion based on my silly comment, but now that you did...
In a world where no underground floors exist, I guess counting from 1 can make sense, that part's true... but since we do tend to have floors underground, I find it a lot more logical to think of floors as a scale around 0. Otherwise you would either have to number the 1st basement floor 0 or skip 2 floors between the ground floor and the basement.
xibalba89 at 2024-02-14 12:50:21+00:00 ID:
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Basement floors are 0 in the States.
SimonGray at 2024-02-14 12:53:10+00:00 ID:
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My point exactly. That is nonsensical.
xibalba89 at 2024-02-14 12:55:20+00:00 ID:
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Why? They're underground, and NOT the norm.
Gex1234567890 at 2024-02-14 12:10:31+00:00 ID:
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And last, but not least, they REAAALLY need to join a labor union!
lordnacho666 at 2024-02-14 07:47:39+00:00 ID:
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As long as it's common to quote a total size it's fine
Fillifax at 2024-02-14 10:11:05+00:00 ID:
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The system makes no sense - according to BBR (that's the official housing specifications), my apartment is 4 floors and 1 room in total.
macnof at 2024-02-14 10:28:05+00:00 ID:
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That's a reporting error. The owner of a building has a responsibility to ensure BBR is correct.
Fillifax at 2024-02-14 10:32:52+00:00 ID:
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It's not an error, there's a reason for all of it. Floor 1: Kitchen, entrance/hallway, and toilet, neither counts as a room Floor 2: Bedroom, but the ceiling isn't the required 230cm tall which is a prerequisite to be counted as a room Floor 3: Technically an alcove (hems) which is big enough to be considered a floor but as it is an alcove, it is not considered a room Floor 4: The living room, the only room considered a room by BBR
macnof at 2024-02-14 10:37:30+00:00 ID:
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That sounds like an awesome apartment!
Fillifax at 2024-02-14 10:38:14+00:00 ID:
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If you don't mind the 3 sets of stairs it's great!
Zapador at 2024-02-14 09:34:15+00:00 ID:
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Why? It makes sense to count general purpose rooms and just exclude bathroom and kitchen. At least to me. But well, as long as everyone agrees how to count it, it's fine.
WindJester at 2024-02-14 09:15:19+00:00 ID:
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Actually, not always. We live in a 3 room apartment which is living room + 2 bedrooms (or whatever you use the second room for). In addition, on top of kitchen and bathrooms, we got a separate laundry room in the apartment which is fully usable but not part of the count for some reason. We also got a small dining area attached to the kitchen, which is still the kitchen, but still does potentially serve a separate purpose
What you're saying is definitely the standard though, just pointing out there can be minor deviances from it
Piggy_time_ at 2024-02-14 09:39:01+00:00 ID:
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This comment really added value to the thread, thank you for telling us about your particular situation.
WindJester at 2024-02-14 09:41:17+00:00 ID:
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Considering I was replying to a comment specifically addressing how rooms are counted, it did 🤷♂️ you're free to disagree/not like it, tbh I don't really care
MemorianX at 2024-02-14 12:46:37+00:00 ID:
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It's because you count livable rooms, the laundry room properly doesn't adheade to the fire code or something