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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are two legitimate concerns about Signal: they use real phone numbers as identifiers, and you have to trust Signal as the server operator as they don't allow their client to be used with other servers. While the server software is also open source, you have to trust that they're running the same version in production.

[–] RandomBit 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree; however, the second point I don't see as Signal specific. In any service, how do you verify that a server is running unmodified open source code? For the vast majority of people, they are also depending upon the client being unmodified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you could run your own Signal instance, then that could help alleviate concerns of bad faith operators. That's what Session is essentially (started as a fork of Signal): https://getsession.org

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

With e2e encryption, you don't need to trust the server, you only need to trust the clients.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sickmatter @dirtmayor @jmcs @RandomBit @realcaseyrollins

I'd argue another concern is Signal hosting data in the U.S.A. rather than a country with stronger data privacy laws and one that isn't part of fourteen eyes. The phone number requirement is my biggest issue though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@PublicLewdness @dirtmayor @jmcs @sickmatter @RandomBit @realcaseyrollins Signal was forked to create Session

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