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Greens keep ignoring energy density and therefore land use to make the case for a "greener" 100% wind/solar/hydro grid
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IAEA PRIS - The Database on Nuclear Power Reactors: https://pris.iaea.org/pris/home.aspx
NRC US reactor status: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/reactor-status/index.html
US Nuclear Plant Outage Status: https://www.eia.gov/nuclear/outages/
Milestones in Advanced Nuclear: https://www.airtable.com/universe/expnrIMohdf6dIvZl/milestones-in-advanced-nuclear
What about the waste? http://whataboutthewaste.com/
What about the cost? https://zionlights.substack.com/p/what-is-the-true-cost-of-energy
How long will nuclear fuel last? https://whatisnuclear.com/blog/2020-10-28-nuclear-energy-is-longterm-sustainable.html
Global Energy Footprint https://energy.glex.no/footprint/
Low Carbon Power Nuclear page: https://lowcarbonpower.org/type/nuclear
IAEA PRIS - Under Construction Reactors: https://pris.iaea.org/PRIS/WorldStatistics/UnderConstructionReactorsByCountry.aspx
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@Atom Nuclear is green energy. The problem green activists have is the massive cost of nuclear plants, the timescale of getting them active, and the security concerns of them merely existing.
Your post is not only deeply & deliberately misleading (that's not what the comic says, even remotely), it's also wrong and stupid. Well done.
Plus the still unsolved waste problem.
I thought vitrifying and subsequent underground storage is a pretty effective method of storage for many isotopes? Obviously it isn't perfect, but it means no liquids to leak atleast.
Also recent advances in fusion are exciting, though obviously only time will tell if they'll get anywhere or just fizzle out...
I am but a humble student, but the silly thought does cross my mind, has anyone wondered what the consequences of dumping nuclear waste into a volcano would be?
There are already prospects for long time storage, and some of these are in various stages of development. Finland may be furthest ahead. Even Norway (who's not even considering nuclear power at the moment) is looking into converting their temporary storage of research waste to a permanent solution. Stable geological conditions are critical, but it's technically very doable.
Even if all the costs and timescales could be reduced, the security concerns are significant. On top of that even the entire nuclear energy operation requires a (literal) higher degree of education than most alternatives, which is a ton of human resources to stay active, let alone started.
Now we also live in a world where wind/solar/hyrdo have proven their efficacy and reliability, which we weren't really at even 20 years ago. (Well hydro has been around.)
Yeah but nuclear has one very important advantage over alternatives, it puts all the power in the hands of billionaires. Smaller companies, farmers, even home owners with a pv, wind grid could supply power locally allowing communities to be in control of their own energy requirements which will mean the billionaires won't have such a tight and deadly grip on their lives - what next?! Allowing free communication over a community run internet? Food security without needing to work eight hour days in awful conditions?
It doesn't matter how we generate power at long as the billionaires are the only ones able to do it, everything else must be derided and attacked endlessly for the good of our precious oligarchy.
Good point you make here, for those of us living in cities, solar would be more difficult to scale as a solution, however I'm a strong believer that with the energy market potentially coming to the mainstream with gas stations building EV chargers that industrial scale solutions can be built to supply demands, people will simply find and think of new ways to harvest energy