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no idea on Leo Grenier, but the actual radar operator went on to track crafts over the lake for hours... after he retired he talked a lot more about it (and that it's definitely aliens)
as to the tic tac video, glad you set me up for this: Yeah the pilot of the plane that filmed that, was one of three people who gave testimony to congress (along with David Grusch). The whole congressional hearing is tedious to watch, but well worth it.
That pilot goes into great detail about how he had multiple instruments tracking the tictac, other planes were flying with him, how extensively he's educated on that equipment, and how exactly he's sure that it's not some camera glitch.
but you should definitely watch the entire, unedited congressional hearing on UAPs... i watched a lot of coverage about it, but it all misses a lot of important things. Still the members of congress talk too much about themselves, etc... but you should see the whole thing.
And as much as i dislike Joe Rogan lately, his interview with Grusch is pretty good; he lets Grusch talk for most of the time.
Found one more quote from Grenier:
lol... no, one guy who wasn't there saying some vague coverup language (i know what it is, but won't tell you, but it's totally not ufo)
no that doesn't discount hundreds of eye witnesses across hundreds of miles, and the actual guy operating the radar:
https://wwmt.com/news/local/retired-meteorologist-shares-his-account-of-1994-west-michigan-ufo-sightings
it makes zero sense to keep quoting a guy who wasn't there, and who says "i know but wont tell you till i retire"
and btw, no current comments from Grenier...
also, i was there... and i know what i saw!
I'm not doubting what you saw. I'm just wondering what that Grenier guy thinks you saw. He seems to say he has a good idea of what it is. He could be a total nutter but I'd still like to know what he thinks. Hasn't some podcaster tracked him down?
And are there any photos? I couldn't seem to find any.
you should watch the episode...
no pictures that i know of...
1994 was still film cameras and not very good at night photography...
i don't think he's a nutter, i think he's lying...