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I'm sure these freak events really happened, but it seems irresponsib(ru)le to make people feel like this might happen to them, just for views

Update: I have hidden channel names in the interest of letting people know this is criticizing the tr(ul)end, and not any specific YouTubers

Edit: If you're here to discuss any particular YouTuber, please scroll down. I've already had this discussion, and I have nothing more to consider or add regarding this derailment. I've fixed the problem by posting an edited image. Thank you so much!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's vague enough to spread fear, it implies that the cause is the lick itself and omits definitely relevant details. It deliberately doesn't provide these details upfront.

I've now entered that video's URL into the YouTube Transcript site, and it's actually even worse than I thought. The script appears to be deliberately written not to disclose the relevant facts upfront, but instead to keep you in the dark for most of the video.

Responsible journalists include all relevant facts in the headline and first paragraph, then may go in depth into methodology, etc.

Videos like this have one goal: To make money

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The video series he does is to essentially put the viewer in the shoes of the diagnosis process and mystery of it all. Is it irresponsible when videos showing mystery stories dont lead with who the killer was or when jokes dont start with the punch line?

If you just clicked the video you'd see the first image is a disclosure mentioning that this kind of case is uncommon and explaining the circumstances in which you should seek medical attention.

Overall I dont see why putting all the facts in a headline makes it more or less responsible. You want to know the story then watch it. It's not like the story is misleading or wrong, and his video in particular is pretty thorough in going over exactly whats happening and why.

[–] Ookami38 4 points 10 months ago

But the headline should just be... What? Man dies? I guess that's not clickbait. Not very interesting, either. Almost like YouTube videos are made to be entertainment, with some knowledge sprinkled in.

Chubbyemus videos are some of the least clickbait stuff I've seen, hands down lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But then it still doesn't make sense to lead with the dog lick. Clearly, there were symptoms. I doubt they rushed someone to the ER immediately after a dog licked them. That's absurd.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The dog lick is literally what transmitted the disease that eventually lead to the patient getting sepsis and dying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but the patient didn't present with a dog lick, and I doubt it was even a consideration to begin with. "Dog lick shuts down man's organs!!!!!!1!!1!" just gets views. It's not really honest imo.

[–] Ookami38 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool, I'll talk here then. Yeah they presented with an illness that was transmitted to them via dog lick. Still not clickbait. The dog lick caused the illness in a weird fashion. There's nothing sensationalizing dogs, or fear mongering or anything else. It's a weird medical case, BECAUSE it was transmitted by a dog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'll block his channel so I don't accidentally screenshot him again in the future. I hope he keeps you warm at night.

[–] Ookami38 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a video made for entertainment and light reporting. Not a journalism piece. He includes the relevant facts, and he breaks the case down on a turn by turn basis. I guess every documentary about a killer or some shit is "clickbait" if they don't tell you who did it in the first few minutes, eh? Nevermind mystery and intrigue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, congratulations! You've described a widespread trend that I find harmful. This dishonest clickbait is "normal," and that's the bad part, but I've already tired of this discussion

[–] Ookami38 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bait implies a dishonesty. There is no dishonesty, there is no bait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey, if you scroll down you'll see I've already had this conversation. You're giving me no new information to consider, and I've nothing more to add.

Clickbait is usually technically true, yes. Doesn't make the practice any better.

[–] Ookami38 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, clickbait makes wild claims, that don't show up in the video, or are drastically overstated. Like, if he said "dog lick sends man to hospital with multiple organs failure" and then yeah, he was licked by a dog then ate some arsenic, that's one thing. That's clickbait. Implying a weird thing caused the issues, when it was really just arsenic. The dog lick directly leading to it, though, is a different story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Again, scroll down, and have a good day.