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Has anyone a TL;DR why they could do that? Last time I heard anything about Neuralink they were mass killing animals with botched implants.
Enough animals died. Now humans have their turn
Fucking finally.
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Do we have any concrete evidence that he’s even telling the truth? Something other than a tweet on a platform he owns? He seems to lie often.
Smells a lot like "Funding secured" or any of the other insane promises he's made.
There's the hyper loop, the cyber truck missing deadlines and quality concerns and range lies, all of the Tesla delays, etc
That said they did FDA approval for human trials last May https://www.reuters.com/science/elon-musks-neuralink-gets-us-fda-approval-human-clinical-study-brain-implants-2023-05-25/
Don't forget that time when he held up a piece of glass, pointed to a house behind him with a glass roof, showed a presentation of power output metrics and dualrability tests, and said they made solar roofs and just needed to figure out how to manufacture at scale
They had not, in fact, made a working prototype - they were still trying to figure it out. He stood up there with a piece of pretty glass (that was not in fact any type of solar panel) and entirely fabricated test results, and he lied over and over.
He must've gotten some artist's design model, produced several roofs worth, and made all of it up.
FDA had denied, company presumably made some sort of changes that were not publicized (or paid off the right people), FDA approved.
If you’ve ever dealt with getting a medical device approved by the FDA, you’d know they don’t fuck around. They’re so hardcore it’s scary.
there are ways around them. convince them your product is "substantially equivalent" and they don't look too hard, apparently. (see - hard silicone penile implants)
https://www.propublica.org/article/penis-enlargement-enhancement-procedures-implants
They famously didn't approve the wonder drug thalidomide.
Not when you're the wealthiest person in the world. All hurdles are trivial when you're wealthy.
In my experience, I've seen a muti billion dollar company denied new product testing for errors on paperwork.
My former employer had to etch "not for human use" in the devices because the FDA didn't clear them. They took them to use on sheep instead.
The FDA, as long as it doesn't fall prey to the revolving door like every other regulator, is extremely effective.
I wouldn't say "effective". They're good at rejecting bad things, but they accomplish that largely by being very risk-averse. People who suffer because a treatment wasn't approved should count for more than they do. The best possible policy might be one that lets a few bad things through if it also lets through a lot more good things.
That's exactly what we would hear everytime we asked about the paperwork from the FDA authorizing human trials. I'm sorry, but it works.
They were approved last year in May by the FDA for human trials
https://www.reuters.com/science/elon-musks-neuralink-gets-us-fda-approval-human-clinical-study-brain-implants-2023-05-25/
FDA fell asleep at the wheel
Recommend you watch Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix for three answer. Also because it's amazing.
no, you're amazing !
I heard there were some amazing people in this thread?
Looks like they were right