I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don't, you weren't paying attention.
Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton's campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we're being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election "We're about to get Brexited." I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980's.
Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They're the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.
Really? I voted for Jill Stein, and none of the discussion on Reddit leading up to it was deterring me from doing that.
Seeing the results of the 2016 election, which again ended in an insurrection, is specifically why I won't be voting third party for this one.
I'm an old, I'd been aware of Trump for a long time. I wasn't willing to risk him trying to become a dictator, the guy had been a suck-up to dictators long before his run in 2016.
Being willing to critique the party for failing to match the wits of a fucking orange idiot didn't set well with a lot of folks.
The conversations weren't changing my opinions either, they were just frustrating and eye-rolling, just as they are now.