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I made a blog post on my biggest issue in Lemmy and the proposed solutions for it. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I appreciate the effort, but what is happening is option 1, aka merging of communities, naturally.

About knowing where to post, you can usually have a look at https://lemmyverse.net/communities, search the community name, and have a good idea of which one is the most active.

Sometimes different communities can coexist, and that's fine. [email protected] and [email protected] have different audiences, and that's okay.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm aware that people are slowly grouping up to one specific community per topic but I don't think this means there isn't an issue with communities being fractured. Using a third party tool to gauge which communities are popular also isn't a great solution. Just searching Linux shows:

I don't think each one of these communities has a different audience. It's the same audience, but there isn't an obvious answer for which one to visit or post in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Id say that the obvious answer is the Linux community with the most members. [email protected] has more than double the number of subscribers of the next most active Linux community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

.ml is okay to discuss Linux, the overlap between the two communities makes sense

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The overlap between authoritarians and Linux?

Well I suppose North Korea does run the closed source RedStarOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Oh like me?

Yeah we do overlap with Linux, the tankies however don’t.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

what makes you think they are authoritarian?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Because we all know how tankies are, so stop acting coy.

Maybe you should go conquer some bread instead of trying to defend maoists and stalinists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why does the this ignorant speech infest so many threads? No one gives a shit and any keyboard warrior crap you’re doing in your free time isn’t going to change anything going on in the world.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

An opinion based on knowledge can hardly be called ignorant.

But if you’re having a bad day, hopefully that lil outburst helped you release some tension.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You used a word salad of all the words the most anger ridden posts are filled with. That’s all I was pointing out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What part do you think is a word salad exactly?

Because every part of what I said makes perfect sense.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no one is defending maoists or stalinists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You’re saying no one on .ml defends maoists and stalinists???

I bet nutomic has Che as their avatar for no reason at all.

parentis_shotgun posts in juche_gang on reddit for irony?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

>You’re saying no one on .ml defends maoists and stalinists???

no, i'm saying no one here is.

and i don't think it's a major theme of there linux community either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

So why comment when we were talking about what .ml does not what’s happening here?

So bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't need an account on lemmy.ml to subscribe to any community there. For example, I run my own self-hosted instance and none of the communities I'm subscribed to are from my own instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Oh I meant more that you're interacting with them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Sure unless your instance is defederated, we need more ways to control the content without relying on defederation

It makes me feel like I should be making the post to multiple communities, but then I feel like I'm spamming

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It does kinda suck being defederated from big instances like lemmy.ml because there are big communities there, but at the other end it's nice to have alternatives on different instances. For example, I can't view [email protected] but I can access [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The PDev version is better anyway.

I have a few communities that are still on .ml, I forgot you guys were defederated, maybe I should move them elsewhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure unless your instance is defederated, we need more ways to control the content without relying on defederation

Hopefully defederation will happen less and less with 19.X allowing users to block instances themselves

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I think there needs to be more options though, for admins and for users. Like conditional caching or proxying of images from other instances.

And not just blocking instances but choosing to block all the users from an instance without blocking their communities, or only blocking their comments not their posts. Also admins should be able to set default blocks that all the users get but can change individually

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That would be nice indeed, but with the development rhythm, it might take a while to get there. Sublinks on the other hands seems promising sublinks.org

[–] Socsa -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And you'll eventually get banned from it for not praising Stalin hard enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Spoken like somebody who knows nothing about what they are saying.

[–] Socsa 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Literally spoken as a leftist who has gotten bans for not being a Maoist bootlicker. My accounts with this name across multiple instances are the on a short leash for daring to question ML dogma.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you don't insert politics into normal conversations and you value relationships more than you value being right (left) then this should not be an issue.

Stay away from the political communities and don't feel like you need to correct people when they spout out political bullshit.

[–] Socsa 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But I want to discuss politics and worldnews. I'm just not allowed, because wrongthink.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Then keep it in the politics and news communities, and don't be surprised when you are kicked. You don't go protesting at the KKK meeting expecting to change minds just like you don't try to go to [email protected] expecting to change minds. If you are looking for real discussion then don't go to a community that is hostile to the discussion you want to have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

In this case, it's the first, which is obvious based on the number of subscribers and active users. You don't even need a third party tool, it's literally in the sidebar

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It happens! I moderate [email protected], and recently [email protected] merged with us naturally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

, but what is happening is option 1, aka merging of communities, naturally.

[citation needed]

I don't see any community that has been mechanically, forcibly moved over to another instance. I can still post to [email protected] and [email protected] separately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cooking communities merged:

That's what I meant with natural merging of communities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's good to see, but still doesn't cover the case of what happens if those communities are in different instances. That's the really big issue with merging (naturally or not).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

[email protected] is the reference. [email protected] still exists, but has much less activity. There was some backlash at the time about the subreddit mods wanting to take over the .lw community, so everybody fled to .ml