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Oh, pardon me, if y'all voted for genocide then that's completely different, good point.
I think your quoted text is an excellent and succinct point, and absolutely true.
In the democracy, there is hope for lasting human rights for tens of millions of people.
Hamas has no future. It would be a lot cooler if they stopped using human shields but your sympathy is part of their strategy, that's why those civilians are dead.
Those civilians are dead because the IDF killed them. It's really that simple. Being human shields doesn't mean you can bomb them. Asshole.
I agree you can't just bomb people because they are standing next to a military target. You have to warn them first.
Such as by calling them on the phone, sending texts, air dropping leaflets, and firing warning shots, all of which the IDF does.
Uh huh, then they turn around and bomb the safe zone.
These are ongoing things not one and done. Look up whatever specific incident you think you know about and then research to find the warnings that went out before it.
Further reading: https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-hamas-terrorist-organization/how-is-the-idf-minimizing-harm-to-civilians-in-gaza/
Wouldn't Hamas just leave the location as well if you "warn" civilians?
Btw when did Israel last perform a roof knock (aka warning you that you will be bombed by bombing your house)
There are videos of it happening during this war and it involves percussive shells not bombs.
Hamas might leave the location absolutely. They might also tell their entire extended family that God wants them to go stand on the roof, now, and await their rewards in paradise. Absolute psychopaths.
They aren't going to leave carrying rockets and rocket launchers on their backs and they can't bring the tunnels with them.
A self-defense military operation against insane terrorists is not genocide in any way.
You're right. However, the rest is genocide.
No. Genocide isn't a term you can throw around lightly, something you don't like isn't genocide just because you think it is. There is no genocide in Palestine, and it's horrendously offensive to even suggest that such a thing is occurring.
Just because you say it doesn't make it true, and just because you pretend to be horrified or offended doesn't make it false
They're bulldozing graveyards.
There are tunnels underneath the entire city and the entire landscape is unstable.
I will repeat this again, the IDF could kill your mother and you'll just say there was a tunnel in her head.
Ridiculous. My mother isn't in the West Bank and she doesn't launch any rockets at anyone.
Going to guess that your full name is JustZionism
Telling people they shouldn't talk about genocide is horrendously offensive.
Trivializing actual genocide by just throwing the word around is also horrendously offensive.
Trivializing actual genocide by dismissing it is horrendously offensive.
South Africa is making the case that it's genocide, that's not to be taken lightly and it's not just random people saying it is.
There's been plenty of evidence. Look at the one-sided settler violence that's been happening in West Bank, the people killed there are by and large uninvolved with the October massacre and terrorist attacks, including the American-Palestinian boy from Louisiana.
Israel kills doctors: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213307710/gaza-doctors-al-shifa-hospital
Israel kills journalists, some intentionally: https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/
Israel kills children: https://www.telegraphindia.com/world/strike-kills-12-people-mostly-children-in-gaza-area-declared-safe-zone-by-israel/cid/1991673 (and are a significant portion of the reported 25000 dead from the conflict)
Israel strikes locations where it tells civilians to evacuate to for safety: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-war-day-59-1.7048019
I have nothing against Jews or people who are from Israel. We have to stop supporting and sanction the IDF and Israeli government's policy of recklessly inflicting non-combatant casualties in the region.
Look who joined South Africa's complaint. That's all you need to know. Look who's line you're towing right now. Paragraph 12 of South Africa's application.
Find them credible on human rights?
JustZionism
I agree with you, but found out real quick that people on here really do believe the over the top rhetoric with respect to this religious war. Now I generally just pass on by without commenting. This being an exception. The better to gather downvotes I suppose.
It's good to know you support the killing of 10s of thousands of innocent civilians, many women and children, and the forced starvation of at least half a million people. Of course though, because they are Arab means they don't count as people right?
Exactly! That type of rhetoric. Just fascinating.
Okay psycho.
And straight to ad hominem attacks. It's really just the most interesting time to be alive.
People who agree with you, from Paragraph 12 of South Africa genocide application to the UN criminal court:
Good company you keep there kurwa.
pigeonholing is a variant of ad hominem and those are prohibited on Lemmy.world