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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To find a car and control it remotely will need a server. That's why it's not free.

it looks like only way is to somehow imitate their API and change those links in the car. I think it would be cool to selfhost such server.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The car costs a lot of money and they already give you wareanty, free service and will in one way or another milk you for years to come. I don’t think one more connection to a server costs this much.

Especially since all the „telemetry” is uploaded for free.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's the cell plan not the server costs unfortunately. When they moved to app based starting from anywhere you need to start paying the cell carrier for that wireless connection.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Servers and engineers to maintain the software and infrastructure are also not free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but not $60/year per car expensive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, that's still mostly the cellular connection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Bulk cellular connection at that scale is much less than $1 per month per car.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can understand some of these features requiring a $5/month subscription. Anything more than that is absolutely insane. With roadside assistance (depending on what that actually entails) I could see that sevice being bumped to $15-$20 a month,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, these do include roadside and the cheaper option is $5/month and the more expensive one is just over $12/month.

So it sounds to me like this would be a good value for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I never said this was a bad value, but I think we all know that these prices will not remain. They will increase because people will pay it once they are locked in. And if someone buys a used car, they have to pay that subscription to get these features, ensuring the manufacturer gets a slice from used sales. I can understand the cost, but it sets a dangerous precedent. It should be one time fee that grants the VIN access to the severs permanently. What would be really nice is if we had legislation that requires companies with a certain amount of revenue to maintain services for older products so they can't just pull the plug later anyways.