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It is not Lemmy or kbin, it is the fediverse. (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I don't think many people understand that if they use Lemmy or kbin, they are posting to the fediverse. There are other platforms and will be more to come. Referring to a post on "Lemmy" or "kbin" is like saying you saw a post on your Windows or Mac computer.

We should be referring to it as...

  • I saw it on the fediverse.
  • Hey fediverse users ...
  • A thread on the fediverse...

New terms may emerge but referring to the platform seems weird, almost ignorant.

edit: A better example is email. You wouldn't assume everyone is on Hotmail because that is the email provider you use. You say I'm sendingan eamail, not I'm sending a Hotmail.

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[–] imaqtpie 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://lemmy.world/comment/20357

This comment was very helpful when I first joined. Long story short, each server is locally storing data for its own users and communities, and also for external communities that at least one user is subscribed to.

Everything is either self or donor funded, and it is my understanding that this model can scale quite a bit without a crazy amount of donations.

But if we get into instances with over a million users, I'm not sure when/if the donor funded model eventually breaks down. That'll be a good problem to have though, because it means this platform will have been a massive success.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Ruuds starting guide post in [email protected] is good too.
Are the bang links working for kbin users too or only lemmy? https://lemmy.world/post/37906

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bang links work for users on Kbin.

If that is Lemmy creating the URL or kbin seeing the bang format and using it, I don't know... off to find out :-)

edit: experimenting here !kbin
edit2: I think Lemmy is creating a regular link out of that. My bang above was not auto converted on kbin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awesome, the comment you linked was super helpful. Thanks!

To summarize for my own understanding:

  • the federation protocols (whatever they are) dictate that data is replicated across instances. So my data could be stored in multiple DBs. No one person owns it. (So I should be careful what I post 😅)
  • If my instance goes down, I won’t be able to use my account created on that instance
  • If another instance goes down, I’ll be able to read older posts from that instance, but maybe not newer ones since they won’t be reliably be replicated

The main goal with the fediverse right now is traction, so we should just be focusing on using it as much as possible and figure out sustainability later.

[–] imaqtpie 1 points 1 year ago

Yup, that all seems right.

Totally agree, once we have a strong, sustainable community in place, all of the theoretical issues can be fixed as they pop up. The flexibility of federation gives us a lot of options in terms of developing the platform. We don't have to be locked into one vision or plan, different instances can create their own solutions and servers can learn from each other in terms of what seems to be working best.

I get so excited every time I start talking about where this platform is headed 😊

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’ll be a good problem to have though, because it means this platform will have been a massive success.

I dunno, could be a repeat of Eternal September.