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"Imperialism only counts if it's Western, otherwise it's just sparkling liberation" (media.kbin.social)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and the moment they actually stop and declare peace, the US and EU will seek to tear the rest of their government apart and try to start a civil war, like they’ve done at least 15 times they got involved in a conflict in the last 23 years

what

Dont get me wrong, Ukraine should have the right to defend itself and its borders from violent invasion. But IMO if they’d joined the EU prior, they wouldnt be scrambling to gather the monetary and political resources to defend itself, and the fact that the US and EU started giving them more than their entire GDP in weapons and aid merely weeks after kind of reeks of proxy war

What the fuck do you think Ukraine had been trying to do before the war? And 'reeks of proxy war'? Is that what you call it when a country is invaded without provocation and supported by countries which think that maybe returning to the 19th century way of doing things might not be great for international stability? And more than their entire GDP?

Jesus Christ. As someone who was accidentally correct once said

Ukraine is one of those messy topics nobody ill-informed should like touching tbh

[+] [email protected] -24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Any predictions at this point are nothing more than wild speculation. Fuck's sake, Putin's personal caterer led a mercenary coup attempt on Moscow. How firm or how weak Putin's grip on power is in light of absurdities like that is an absolute mystery to all of us on here. Hell, might be a mystery to the powers that be, and even Putin himself.

The West attempted desperately to keep economic ties with Russia open until it was apparent that the war would not end quickly; the idea that the decisionmakers in our governments are drooling at the prospect of Russia falling apart and cratering trade for the next decade instead of desiring a quick return to normality is just... not in-line with the historic priorities of the post Cold-War West.