Individuals making the choice to go vegan is never going to solve our environmental and animal rights issues. Not that it's worthless, but I think the focus should be on getting more stringent regulation of how animals are treated and pushing for alternatives like fake or lab grown meat. It should also be noted that vegetarianism is better for the environment overall, vegan milk alternatives are all highly demanding crops that need a lot of water and space.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not to take away from the core of veganism, but we as individuals can do the bare minimum of living vegan to help lift the strain on the environment. Politics will do jack as we've seen many years over, so people need to act themselves and take matters in their own hands. Every bit counts, so dismissing veganism as a whole because individual choices don't matter is a weak argument. Change must come from somewhere after all.

Companies do need to change their ways, but so does the average consumer.

That is... also not true. Take any vegan milk alternative and the dairy version will be worse in terms of environmental strain and water consumption. Like, not even close. Even the "worst" vegan option will be better than dairy.

You can take any graph on this off the internet and will have this confirmed, but have a couple.

Edit: Plus advocating for animals to be kept better will not change anything about the end result: innocent animals are being kept in captivity, tortured, and killed. They don't give a shit if they have an eighth of a square meter more space to """live""".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I definitely misremembered on the milk thing, looking it up the statistics seem pretty clear that dairy production is more demanding than the alternatives. I still think that regulation will have more of an effect than trying to change the minds of individuals though, I wouldn't dismiss the kind of impact it can have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Both. Both is good imo