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Italian opposition leaders are demanding “clarity” from the prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, after a gun owned by an MP from her far-right Brothers of Italy party was accidentally fired at a New Year’s Eve gathering.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Tangential question. How is their education about Italys role in WW2?

I'm fairly ignorant of their politics, but it seems like they gravitate towards the far right.

I know that Germany has invested a lot in educating their populace that while the guilt of their Nazi ancestors is not theirs to carry, they must understand how they got ~~their~~ there, and accept how evil their actions were, in order to not allow history to repeat.

Does Italy take similar ownership?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

History is teached as it is, no sugarcoating anything. But many are still fond of fascism if they grow up in a conservative family. Many in the south also see mafia as strong fascinating. It’s just what it is. Like 50% of Americans would vote for Trump or 50% of Brazilians would vote for bolsonaro if they could. Some people are just stupid

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately, in Italy different choices were made. Not by Italians but by who won the WW2. Educating about the dangers of some ways of thinking or even condemning some people as criminals would have empowered too much the PCI (Italian communist party) and made the country lean too much towards the Eastern block, so a "general amnesty" was made and most things were forgotten. Here is the result. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Italy has a lot of problems with their fascists and their relation to their role in ww2, as a nation, no doubt. But also, what I have seen in italy is something I have not seen in any other country. Anti-facists occupations of buildings hosting clubs, womens refuges, theaters and jobs for immigrants and refugees. I was on a city walk with one of these movments associated with other occupations, and they toured the city showing the anti-fascist graffiti, showed city maintained plaques of anti-fascist actions and told stories about the resistance movements during ww2. For an italian, I can imagine there is some escape from their nation's responsibilities embedded in that event, but I can also see how it was obvious how it was fueled by a distain for fascism and anti-semitism.