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I have seen that the lemmy.ml mods will openly ban discussion about the CCP. I am wondering if the sh.itjust.works team allows criticism of government bodies, while still banning racism.

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[–] upperleft 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As i stated: "The Chinese Communist Party is absolutely not above criticism"

There is a point at which the criticism becomes a weird fetish though, and that is something that was a common occurrence on reddit. Likely moreso tied to nationalist politics and rabble rousing foreign policy that I personally have a disdain for.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who lives in China, I’ll tell you your perspective on that isn’t wrong. People abroad too easily conflate what the Chinese govt. dues with Chinese people and “China”. Their concerns are all valid, but people grossly overestimate how much impact regular Chinese folks can have on their own govt.

How happy are people in the US with their govt and how much control they have over it? Not enough right, well the Chinese have even less. They’re even less engaged, though, oddly, but because the stakes for caring and speaking up are so high. People abroad probably rightly wish the average citizen constrained their own govt more, but the reality is they don’t have a way to do it, so they just focus on daily life. Also, they are in a misinformation bubble like crazy.

[–] zpoex 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think this is the best take in the thread.

Also, as someone who's from there, it's just pretty weird seeing folks on there saying "f the ccp" to each other, sometimes adding a "but not the chinese people tho". Like what is the point of yall repeating this shit to each other. It makes me feel like I'm sort of excluded, and I think I cannot really have a more in-depth conversation with those people because I do not think they will really understand my situation and the world around me.

[–] upperleft 4 points 1 year ago

You’ve really hit the nail on the head.

Do the anti CCPers really care about people? Or is it just a hate boner/we love freedom meme?

The way it comes off it’s like there really just isn’t any depth too it and it seems really performative with little real substance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the reality is most online commenters haven’t been to China at all or for very much and their understanding of it is binary and Perry surface level. It’s a shame, really, but this goes across exposure to all cultures I think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having been subscribed to r/hongkong for the past few years, it was like seeing the government quash the voice of the people in real time. 😢

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Aye everything about Hong Kong is and was sad, I love that place so much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's the largest nation in the world, I think that tends to bring a lot of attention.