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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Unlike that peace-lover Trump who only cares about the welfare of the Palestinian people, right?

[–] Chakravanti 9 points 11 months ago

You misspelled Russia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My criticism of Biden is totally my endorsement of trump for sure

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you have the name of a third person who has a chance of being elected in 2024?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

? So I should just love Biden? I don't understand what you mean. I never said anything about voting did I?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a thread about young voters and their willingness to vote for Biden.

So if you weren't talking about voting, were you just changing the subject to talk about what you wanted to talk about? I'd say that's pretty discourteous to the person who posted this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I was responding to a comment, that was basically it. I was expressing dislike for a presidential candidate in a thread about presidential candidates

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also I came back to say this. How do you not see Biden and Trump being our only feasible options as inherently undemocratic? People only like them in comparison to the other. We should not be forced to choose between two objective evils. Are you so resigned to stagnation that you think continuing to enforce a system that exploits is the best option?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What should or shouldn't happen is not relevant to reality.

The reality is no one is going to change the fact that either a Democrat or a Republican is going to be president in 2024

I notice you couldn't name any other viable options. I think that means you realize that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I realize that. It's painfully obvious and it's fucked. However I don't think this can be changed by voting for the lesser evil who is constantly getting more evil

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Again- there are two viable options. A Democrat or a Republican. What does voting for anyone else accomplish? Did voting for Perot change the status quo in 1992? Did voting for Nader change the status quo in 2000? No.

If you want to do the self-congratulating, performative act of voting for someone who has no chance of winning, go for it. If I felt that way, I just wouldn't vote because it would make the same amount of difference but I wouldn't have had to make an effort. Either way, the only one who will know what you did is you.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Centrists falsely interpret all criticism of Biden as support for Trump. It's dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And realists know that bashing Biden with no nuance, as these comments are doing, does nothing but benefit Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Centrists just want everyone to their left and only their left to shut up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then what you're telling us is there is no opportunity for improvement... Clinton was 30 years ago and Biden is to the right of Clinton. Three decades of "incremental progress" has gotten us nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's gotten centrists where they want to go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I mean, you can only appease fascists for so long before it starts to look like collaboration.

[–] ZzyzxRoad 4 points 11 months ago

interpret all criticism of Biden as support for Trump

When you don't vote, therefore allowing Trump to win the election...then yeah.

Equating the above with "all criticism" is what's dishonest. Plenty of people criticize Biden who voted for him once, and they are still voting for him again. But you know that. We might not like him but believe it or not, we dislike fascism even more. Crazy, I know.