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why aren't phones and shit made with 1/4" jacks instead of 3.5mm jacks?
Ftfy: why aren't phones made with jacks?
If the only tool you have is a jack, every problem looks like a pallet.
Phones โ pallets
honestly, i had completely forgotten that some phones, for some completely unfathomable reason, lack an audio jack of any kind. if you are suffering through that, you have my condolences.
they are if you look outside apple
Most android phones don't have these... The only brands I have seen that still make phones with headphone jacks are Asus and Sony...
My wife's new Samsung has a headphone jack and I refuse to buy a new phone without one.
Wrong. According to GSMArena data 286 Android phone models with 3.5mm jack were released only this year out of 454 total, therefore almost 2/3 of Android devices still come with headphone jack.
I looked at the list... It seems that almost all of them are mid/low budget phones, while high end phones rarely come with a jack. As much as it pains me to say it, it makes sense, since people who buy expensive phones probably can afford a wireless set while people who buy budget phones are less likely to buy wireless headphones.
And you'd wrong again, because all mayor manufacturers offer affordable wireless headphones as well. You can get a decent pair for as low as $20 and great wireless headphones with active noise cancelling for $50.
I got a question thought.
I'm using heaphones made for the best audio quality, i use a quarter jack to my audio card or, for my phone, just add an adapter to 3.5.
But my phone is getting old, is it possible to keep a good audio quality, and the heaphones wich sound i like, but through bluetooth?
Because i've never experienced any good bluetooth converter, and neither did i found any good bluetooth headphones, and let's be honest i kinda don't want to buy a new expensive one after getting mine wich was already pretty expensive...
My $200 bluetooth earbuds are adequate at best but in no way compare to my Sony wired studio monitors that cost half the price. I paid for wireless for work calls hands free.
They wireless is nice for a quick walk to the grocery store or something outside, but if I am wanting to really listen to music I plug in.
You want a bluetooth DAC. FiiO makes some decent ones. Only downside might be audio latency, but the quality should be there for budget audiophile headphones like the HD6XX
Audio latency isn't a priority for me, and since you mentioned it i've looked into the codec available (both on the phone i want and the dac) and it seems like FiiO is a very good option.
Thank you very much for the recommendation.
That won't give good quality because the phone sending the signal to the DAC is sending a poor quality signal. Sending a poor quality signal to a high quality DAC won't give you good audio.
However, all OP needs is just going to be a usb-c to 3.5mm audio jack to plug his headphones into. It will have pinouts for analog signal within the USB-C (USB c standard is specd to include analog stereo).
The issue still remains that most phones have a lower quality DAC. Ones that are only good enough to provide good quality for bluetooth devices. The last phone line I know of that had a really good DAC built in there the LG V series phones (v20, v30, v40, v50).
How exactly would it be poor quality? You do understand that there are multiple codecs to choose from using Bluetooth, right? The codec impacts both quality and latency. Also, Bluetooth is a digital signal. The signal either gets sent or it doesn't, so whether the signal is "quality" should not matter.
Bluetooth isn't capable of higher quality audio transfer. Codecs by design remove portions of sound data with their compression and decompression. That's literally why they exist. You lose some quality. They just try to remove portions of audio you don't usually hear, but it is noticeable with high quality systems.
It's why your typical compressed digital song you get a hold of is around 2 1/2 MB. That's its hacked down form. You can get "lossless" songs at full quality, but the sizes will be closer to 30 MB. Bluetooth and the DAC's together can't handle that. If you want high quality, you can't use bluetooth.
The "digital" signal your talking about with Bluetooth is just that. A digital one, and that digital one is a conversion from the dac that dumbs the audio down into what can be sent and processed back in a timely manner.
Going from your phones dac straight to an analog system to wired headphones cuts the conversions needed in half. Instead of going from the phones dac to Bluetooth to the wireless headsets dac to the speakers, you just go from phones dac straight to the speakers. Your phones has a lot more space than those tiny earbuds, so phones will generally have a much better dac than the bt earbuds will. That's on top of the transfer limitations of Bluetooth.
Short and simplified version: your phone can have a better dac than bt earbuds and wired headphones allow you to skip over half the conversion and transfer process.
Most wireless earbuds will become useless bricks since they are designed to be really hard to repair and batteries degrade with charge cycles. So while you can get an earbud on a budget, they will need to be replaced much more frequently than a wired pair of earbuds at the same price.
I got mine pre-covid in 2019 for 30 bucks and they still hold over 4 hours playback time on a single charge and around 4-5 full charges in the charger box.
I'm glad you have had a good experience with yours, but that's the exception rather than the rule. I've been using the same pair of wired earbuds for 18 years (2004-2022), not being careful at all with them... They went through countless times in the laundry machine during my teenage years when I forgot them in the pocket and never had a problem... While both pairs of wireless earbuds I have had died within less than 18 months when I was careful with them.
That's why I won't be buying wireless junk. Even if they are cheaper than they used to be, they are less reliable and become ewaste quickly due to their hard to repair designs.
The only pair of repairable earbuds I am aware of are the galaxy buds live (the ones that look like kidney beans), but they don't stay in my ear, so I didn't buy it.
What kind of dumdum buys a "high end" android phone?
9/10ths of the 2/3 of the phones that have jacks are low tier cheapo phones. Only a few of the higher end specd android phones have audio jacks. The boost mobile phone you get from Walmart for $49 has the audio jack.
Because good luck finding a phone nowadays that's at a bit thicker than 1/4". (It's a shame really; I kinda miss those older, thicker phones...)