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"Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective, with the possible exception of treatment for back pain.[8] A 2011 critical evaluation of 45 systematic reviews concluded that the data included in the study "fail[ed] to demonstrate convincingly that spinal manipulation is an effective intervention for any condition."[10] Spinal manipulation may be cost-effective for sub-acute or chronic low back pain, but the results for acute low back pain were insufficient.[11] No compelling evidence exists to indicate that maintenance chiropractic care adequately prevents symptoms or diseases.[12]"

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The full title of an osteopath is "Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine." From a quick Google search, "An osteopath is a licensed physician who practices medicine using both conventional treatments and osteopathic manipulative medicine"

Having been to one, I found the manipulation to be unhelpful. She quickly zoomed into the trouble spot, but the treatment did nothing for me. But at least it didn't actively harm me. I later received proper medical treatment from a neurosurgeon and physical therapy, because that's what I needed instead of a manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So a bullshit artist who should know better and hides behind a real license for a faint whiff of legitimacy? No thanks, evidence-based medicine only please.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's basically a car mechanic that also do crystal healing and claim changing the car battery and placing a piece of quarts on the dashboard had equal parts in fixing the car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This analogy rocks, might make use of it next time the topic comes up offline.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many many DOs never actually practice osteopathic medicine because they know it is generally hit or miss at best. You probably have been seen by a DO if you’re in the US and never knew it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your first point, if true, says something important about their recognition of the validity of the practice. The second claim is challenging to prove or disprove. Anecdotally, I can tell you that my current doctor isn't into any of that stuff but don't have the academic history of every physician who has ever asked me to turn my head and cough in front of me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is true at least amongst the doctors I know. MDs and DOs learn the same curriculum DOs just have the not evidence based tacked on. A lot of DOs also prefer evidence based medicine and there’s not too much for at least half the osteopathic medicine techniques.

Since you probably don’t know osteopathic medicine references the techniques you probably know as chiropractic care. DOs still learn real medicine so don’t go scoffing at them for letters. I watched my DO friends/colleagues go through the same shit as my MD friends/colleagues

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you were able to get the care you needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This thread is showing me that a lot of people really don't like knowing that osteopaths (but not chiropractors) are licensed medical doctors.