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The ~~2004 2008 2012 2016 2020 2024~~ election is the most important election of our lives. Democracy is at stake and we need to hold our noses and vote for the lesser evil.
Pretending like our elections are currently normal as usual is absurd, we literally had a coup attempt for the 2020 election.
Yes, the 2024 election has democracy on the ballot and it isn't even a controversial statement to say so.
2000 - Gore decides to concede during a close recount
2020 - The big lie, an attack on our Capitol, fake elector plot, phone call to Georgia pressuring it to flip, dominion lawsuit, and more.
They do not compare, simple as that.
I'm aware of what happened in 2000, don't get me wrong. But my point is recent events have been far more egregious, dangerous and unprecedented.
Trying to compare the 2 is uninformed at best, bad faith at worst.
Wow, fuck you very much. Trump's FAILED coup is more dangerous and egregious that Bush's SUCCESSFUL coup? Trump's complete lack of power is more dangerous than Bush redestroying the middle east on false pretences of chemical and nuclear weapons, mobilising terrorist attacks and organisations worldwide?
The only excuse for such a pathetically stupid statement is that you're a little baby who wasn't around for any of the last 2 decades and are just making things up based on vibes. "wah wah wah, I can't remember bush so nothing must have happened". You are an embarrassment. Delete your account and jump in the ocean.
I am sincerely convinced that Trump is far smarter than Bush as well
Idk I think Bush is definitely smarter seeing as he never suffered any consequences and Trump has been charged with crimes.
As our friend Parenti says:
Patriot act and everything else under Bush vs Trump getting some new hogs in Mara Lago
no I've seen bush talk he is stupid. Bush didn't get in trouble because he has manners. The establishment doesn't hate Trump for who he is he's an old money rich guy maing tax cuts and hating immigrants ffs he is the establishment. Trump gets in trouble because he has no filter and says things which make the American establishment look like a bunch of assholes in front of their society friends and in Europe
He is the most American president they've ever had and he's just embarassing
Say what you will, but that's stupid to me.
He has the bag and then suffers consequences for apparently no gain besides saying what hogs want to hear whereas Bush also cut taxes, literally stole 2 elections, and lied the US into trillion dollar wars with no consequence and is seen as a painter now who makes Masterclasses
They will redeem Trump one day.
Trump says that shit because it gets attention and he also hasn't actually faced consequences yet and is very much on track to win the republican nomination and I wouldn't rule him out for presidency
Oh yeah I still think it's a coin flip if he's president in a year and change, don't get me wrong, I just think Bush was able to accomplish all Trump did and much more with even less consequence
they aren't trying to do the same thing though Bush got into politics because it's the family business. Trump seems to just want attention
Agreed there, vanity is really the only reason Trump got into all this in my eyes
I like to imagine you’re @[email protected] but you slip into this alt when it’s time to drop knowledge on em
I wish
Your metrics are just vibe-based then.
2000 was absolutely more of a coup than Jan 6th by almost every functional metric. Your main criticism of Jan 6th and Trump are based more on civility than actual policy. Nothing about Trump was uniquely terrible for a Republican president policy wise, he just said the quiet part out loud.
also that coup was a joke they didn't even do anything
Several hundred bored far right small business owners and boomer QAnon weirdos walking around the capitol for a few hours, stealing a few things and then one of them dying from tasering himself in the balls with absolutely no actual change in power is not a coup.
Lmao liberals will tell you we narrowly escaped the MAGA Reich because some incompetent losers broke a few windows and smeared human shit on the walls
Tell that to someone in Iraq
Thanks for another example of why voting for dema is a waste of time because they don't even give a shit and will loose while claiming the moral high ground given the first possible opportunity.