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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I own a home just outside of a city and my mortgage is 1060/mo. 3BR, 3 bath, finished basement, on a half acre.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good for you. I bet you have to drive everywhere and you don't even realize that the cost of the infrastructure to make your life convient is bankrupting your closest city.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What a dumb shit comment lol.

I literally volunteer on campaigns to change local zoning to be more dense and contain more public transport.

"You countered my point so quick let me think up some way to attack you as a person" lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telling people to "go move outside the city like I do" does exactly the opposite of what you say you're trying to support, so why even bring it up?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you advocate for density, you are de facto arguing to have more people where you are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look, I'm glad you're advocating for good things. People need to be doing that. I'm done with the US and I really have no hope for it so it really doesn't matter anymore to me either way. I'm lucky enough that I never have to come back.

It fucking sucks getting gentrified out of places you lived when you're making over $100k, and its absolutely absurd. I live in the Netherlands now. Because there's a functional tax system my neighbors are bike mechanics and students, instead of literally everyone either being a boomer who bought their house in the 80's or a tech bro on a single income. People should be able to live in cities, and cities should be high density. If people say they're struggling on $150k/y then believe that what they're saying is real, because it is. If people are struggling on $150k/y then theres a huge problem. But you know what's nice? It's not my problem anymore.

I really hope your volunteering works out because it's needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I appreciate your abrupt change in tone and your effort to engage with me as a person. I feel like we share many of the same goals and ideals, and are not as far apart as pithy comments may make us seem.

I hope the Netherlands is as kickass as I've heard it is from friends

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How were you able to move there? On paper I'm absolutely worthless... I'm stuck in a place I can't afford to stay in, but too poor/undesirable to be welcomed into another country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm really privileged and I sacrificed a lot. It's not an option for most people and if I didn't work for a big evil company I probably couldn't do it. They paid for most of it and organized a lot of it, but it was still a ton of work that we couldn't have done without a bunch of help from our family. Also being fueled by pure terror helped.

As much as I say I don't care, I have so many friends who couldn't do the same thing and are stuck like you. If I thought I could help by staying, I probably would have. I thought about leaving when Trump got elected, but decided to stay and try to make things better. Then I got shot by a Trump supporter. So this time my family and I figured out an exit plan and left. Well... My partner and kids got out, but everyone else is still in the US.

Everyone should have the opportunity to live in a place that makes sense. I wish I could make the US a place with living in. I wish that borders didn't exist.

But if you want to escape to Europe, you want to figure out how to get citizenship in a place in the Schengen zone. The easiest to get in to legally are Spain and Portugal, which are a lot cheaper. It's also easier and cheaper to move if you're not taking anything and not supporting any kids or a partner.

I wish I could give you useful advice.