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Given the current state of partisan polarization, it’s unlikely Biden can get majority job approval next year even with the most fortunate set of circumstances. But the good news for him is that he probably doesn’t have to. Job-approval ratings are crucial indicators in a normal presidential reelection cycle that is basically a referendum on the incumbent’s record. Assuming Trump is the Republican nominee, 2024 will not be a normal reelection cycle for three reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has anyone tried explaining that if you allow in the people literally trying to take their rights away, they won't get another chance to vote in a politician against genocide?

Like the genocide is awful but it shouldn't make people forget they have very close to home issues currently happening right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I hear that excuse every single election and have always found it lacking.

If we always have to wait until after the next election to demand better of the Democrats then we'll never see any change. "Lesser evilism" will only allow the Democrats to continue sliding the overton window to the right.

Even if you're already planning to vote a straight Democrat ticket, don't tell them that. Make them think you're a swing voter they need to pander to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How are you hearing it every single election? The main issues didn't start popping up (or at least blatantly enough to change voter turnout) until the 2016 election.

Like that's not nearly enough elections in between to hear the excuse every election.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

How are you hearing it every single election?

He's only seen 2 that he remembers.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With my ears, of course. Trump isn't the only threat to the Democrat party, just the most recent one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't particularly care about the democratic party threat, I care about the uptick in voting issues, the supreme court, and...you know...that the opposing party is trying to vote in someone who attempted to not give up the office

So you know, the recent ones that a lot of people started voting in about.

If you truly believe that's nothing new, i'll just consider you to be part of that astroturfing described above and ask you to stop wasting my time. Seriously.....

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to compromise my principles out of fear. I'd rather write in "none of the above" than hitch my wagon to a party that gets campaign donations from corporate bombmakers like Raytheon.

If the Democrats want my vote, they should start acting like it. They need to stop pretending they can coast to victory on "lesser evilism" before they end up repeating all their mistakes from 2016, and the threat of withholding my vote is the only leverage I have.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stop bullshitting. You'll sit on your morals while a dictator takes over, just being happy you didn't "compromise your morals."

Which ultimately just means doing nothing while the dictator takes over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I bullshitting, or am I applying the only leverage I have over the party?

We can't afford politicians, so the threat of withholding our votes is our only tool for influencing the party.

I advise you to stop being a "safe" voter that will always and forever vote blue no matter who. Even if you're going to vote for Dems anyway, make them think that they need to work for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Am I bullshitting, or am I applying the only leverage I have over the party?

You're bullshitting

I feel like you've had plenty of years to see how that "leverage" is going, and choosing now specifically to try to enforce it is really suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Now specifically"? This has been my political messaging strategy since I reached voting age. Feel free to continue lambasting folks for wanting the party to suck less, that seems really effective too. XD

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it's working so well, huh. Just keep doing it! Doesn't matter how many rights your fellow Americans lose (but not you of course, you're not trans or a woman or anything like that)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm am trans, moved out of Texas and started hormone therapy last year.

People like me are right up there in "first they came for..", so don't imagine that I don't know what's at stake.

That's precisely why it's so important for the Democrats to reform and stop playing carrot to the Republican stick. They are complicit quislings who gladly work with fascists, even voting with them to censure the only Palestinian-American in congress for her objection to the arms deals that are enabling one of our proxy states to perpetuate genocide.

I'm still hopeful that it isn't too late for the party to seek redemption, but I'm not so naive as to think they'll do it on their own. Nothing short of an existential threat to the party would convince it to change, and the only threat we can offer as voters is to withhold support en masse.

Waste as much time as you want trying to shame me into voting, I live in a blue state now so your efforts would be almost meaningless even if they were successful. The people who actually need convincing are the party bosses, and good luck with that if they think they already have your vote.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits -4 points 1 year ago

These tired ass arguments will no longer work for the younger generation.

Thank god