this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2023
268 points (91.6% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27042 readers
1272 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected]


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I’ll start. Non serious answers also welcome

  1. Linux (Linux)

  2. FOSS or die

  3. Video content should have been text

  4. Not caring a LOT about privacy makes you a non-lemmy normie

(…)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're right, that IS weird....

Simplest thing for me is not having to learn something new just so I can play trackmania AND be accepted here. I can play trackmania on windows just fine and I didn't need to learn to set up an OS and work out what distros and the various other tech sounding things I don't understand are.

But being personally offended when someone doesn't use Linux and points out a valid reason is about 80% of lemmy it seems...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trackmania requires no more configuration than it does on windows, and if you use KDE, the interface is almost identical.

The only thing you'd have to learn is to install steam from the app store instead of from the internet, if you give it a shot, I don't think you'll find it to be as difficult as you imagine.

The full steps would be

install linux mint (if you have no preference that's the easiest distro) > open app store > install steam > install trackmania from steam > hit play

edit: just tested it to verify, yeah, trackmania required no additional setup or anything from the standard windows version

Installing linux is a 15 minute process, the only hard part is getting a flash drive, and you only have to do it once, once you have that flash drive you can do it easily endlessly.

I highly recommend trying it out, linux is significantly easier to use and has significantly less maintenance burden. That's why I give it to the elderly, they've all said it makes their lives significantly easier, and none of them have switched back.

Plus, even on a windows machine, the first thing you should do is reinstall the operating system when you get one, especially for second hand machines. Every single major manufacturer puts a bunch of garbage on the computer some of which is nearly impossible to remove without a reinstall, considering you already should do this anyway, it makes it a much easier pill to swallow.

some examples of how linux is easier:

  1. Your computer won't forcibly restart for updates, ever
  2. Your computer is never doing anything in the background that you don't ask it to do, so you don't have to worry about if the power cuts off, whether your machine will still work.
  3. All of the updates are centralized so you don't have to worry about various updaters
  4. All of the installations are centralized so you don't have to worry about using all of the various installers windows has, making sure not to enable it installing extra crap, etc
  5. Guaranteed no cruft that slows your machine down every time, you don't have to go through uninstalling a bunch of crap
  6. Centralization means unless you do something very strange you never have to deal with malware

There's other things, but I have found that these few things make a significant difference, especially for the elderly.

I would consider it unwise to avoid learning about a machine you regularly have to interact with, you'll only make your life more difficult in various, impossible to observe ways from the other side. I guarantee the only difficult step will be the first install.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow that is a lot of words that I'm not gonna read. I have no interest in Linux, I had a curiosity when I joined Lemmy but the typical user just makes me want to not be counted among them. I know there are plenty of good ones too but so many just want to ram their opinion down your throat and judge you as a worse human being if you're happy with Windows.

Thanks for the effort, but I just don't give a shit. Windows works perfectly for me and if something works more perfectly I'm 100% happy living in ignorance anyway.

In a nutshell: Nah I'm good :) x

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How do you know you're happy with windows if you choose to live in ignorance?

What if windows does a ton of annoying things that you're simply used to and accept as a part of life, that you're missing out on fixing completely because you've chosen ignorance?

I don't think you should say that you're happy with windows if you've never investigated any other options, you really just don't know, and it's not shameful to not know or not care, but if you say you're happy with something, that implies a level of knowledge that you don't have.

If someone was proudly ignorant of a topic you cared about, would you not, understandably, be annoyed when they give their opinions founded entirely upon ignorance?

I think that might be what you're seeing here, sorry if this is an upsetting post, but, I just want to make sure you understand how that sounds to the people who did bother to not be ignorant. I'm ignorant of many things, and I choose not to comment on those things or claim to know things about those things, because I know what I don't know, I think it's wise to do that.

Furthermore a number of people have a genuine emotional investment in FOSS that you may not understand, there are good reasons for this, the world would be a significantly better place if FOSS was the norm, for example, in electron microscopy, there are perfectly good electron microscopes that are no longer supported by their companies, forced to run windows 95 and that can never be updated because of proprietary software, the only way of updating these would be to spend literal millions of dollars on this. There's various aspects of healthcare that would be dramatically improved by FOSS being the norm, when you know many many things like this, people often form an emotional attachment to these things that you may not understand from a position of ignorance, and that seem unreasonable. It's often helpful to find common ground with people, rather than be proudly ignorant.

Especially for marginalized groups, FOSS could be a huge benefit, as an example, when the holocaust occurred, the nazis turned to companies to get information from people, in the modern era, could microsoft be used by a government not interested in your best interests to corral you and kill you? Yes, absolutely, even if this is unlikely, it's something that couldn't happen AT ALL with foss, ever.

I don't care if you use linux or not at the end of the day, but I do hope you understand that these people have a genuine, reasonable emotional attachment to FOSS that makes them behave in unreasonable ways when it is challenged. Especially when countless people who are completely ignorant of the problem tell them it doesn't matter on a regular basis, this is an extremely common, compounding annoyance for the community of FOSS enthusiasts.

I hope that makes sense, and doesn't anger you, I just want you to understand where all of this emotional stuff comes from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh look another essay I won't read. This is exactly the shit I meant mate. Stop trying to ram your own opinion down my perfectly happy throat.

Try to consider the fact that I don't care enough about my PC to try and optimise every aspect and that maybe some people have a different view of the world to you, it's not something you need to be upset by.

Imagine what you could have done with the time you spent writing two mini essays nobody will read. Feel free to write a 3rd but the response will be the same. Take care :) x

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Try to consider the fact that I don’t care enough about my PC to try and optimise every aspect and that maybe some people have a different view of the world to you, it’s not something you need to be upset by.

If you read what I wrote instead of assuming what I wrote, you'd understand that your response makes literally no sense in response to what I wrote, I was trying to make you see why people might be emotionally attached to these issues. Why reply to what you won't read? Why comment on things when you don't care what others think?

Odd that you decided to be rude to me when you don't even know what I said. Or do you hate the idea of having a dialogue, in which case, why post anything at all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great stuff! Wanna go for a 4th? :) x

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mind, do you have any questions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only one: maybe a 5th? :) x