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I'm going to hold out with my 1070 as long as I can because prices just aren't where I want them.
I'm still waiting for a worthy successor to the 1060
For $280 the 3060 is twice as fast with twice the memory plus support for DLSS and ray tracing. What are you waiting for?
I jumped from a 1070 to an ex-mining 3080, having a blast!
I just figure the longer I can hold out the better card I can get. I can afford any GPU on the market even a silly 4090 but I'm not spending £2k on a GPU that's just stupid. Really I just want to spend £350 or so on a really good card like the 1070 was back then.
I don't think that's realistic. The industry has changed, and GPUs cost more, for a bunch of reasons. You might be waiting for a very long time.
There where a few 4060Ti's this black friday in the UK with nearly good prices around £360 or so which isn't far off what I would like to pay for a 70 series card. I remember picking up a 560Ti for £150 back when that released still though a 4060Ti for £360 isn't that bad.
But a 4060 Ti isn’t a “really good card”, I certainly wouldn’t dispute that, if you remove that requirement, there are options.
It's better then a 1070. It's at a price that is better then what a friend paid for his 3060Ti, I think he paid over £600 for it at thee time during covid. Those where dark times.
Nearly everything will be better than a 1070, these days :)
I agree, those were bad times. Still are in a certain sense, since it showed NVidia how much more people (in general) were willing to pay for GPUs.. we’re all still paying the price for that.
I think buying any new GPU in 2023 that only has 8GB of VRAM is a mistake. This is an unwise purchase, unless you’re content with 1080p and middling graphics quality.. and maybe not even then. Still, it’s your money. You held out for a “really good card” in the past, which was smart. So why change that now?
I'm probably going to stick with my 1070 for at least another year or two anyway so yea it probably won't be a 4060Ti. Mostly just playing Fallout New Vegas TTW anyway I just wanted a GPu that can handle Reloaded and my modded Skyrim install a bit better because my 1070 struggles somewhat. Whenever I can get a good deal is when I will probably upgrade and yea I know the 4060Ti isn't the best value card but I sort of want an Nvidia card because I have a G-Sync display taht cost me a shit load because it was one of the release models. I wanna get the most value out of it as I can before replacing it which I hope I don't have to anytime soon.
Fair enough! Next gen arrives in late 2024, so at that point we should all have much better choices.
Would be nice if they where priced a little better. I know that's unlikely these days though.
I'm hopeful that the NVidia "Super" refresh will move things at least a little bit in the right direction... which it might. I guess we'll see in a month and a half.
I just hope they drope prices on the none super cards? Chances are though they will jsut increaseprices of the super cards and keep the existing cards the same price.
I think they'll drop prices some.. they almost have to, otherwise why even bring out the "Super" lineup in the first place. 4080-tier cards sell badly bc they are way overpriced and this is way to fix that. Arguing against myself though is that NVidia have done boneheaded things before, and this might be one of them, so maybe you're right and they'll even raise prices.
I really hope that the rumors that are talking an aggressive price drop to stop AMD's momentum in mid-tier GPUs are accurate.
I have a 1080 and I'm doing the same thing. I'm looking to get 2x the performance before I start looking at upgrading my computer and the top cards look like they're hitting that point right now so I'll wait for the mid-level ones to catch up ~next year.
I'm also looking for 2x the performance of what I have now if not a little more.
Can you honestly say how much your 1070 build cost when you built it?
I think my 980Ti build back in the day ran around 1,500 beans.. You can build a 7900XT rig for around the same with a massive increase performance to dollars paid previously.
I a 1070 to replace my 680 Classified when the VRAM on it started to fail. But the rest of my rig which I still run is my 5820k which I think was about £300 or so new, the motherbaord was £140 which is an MSI SLI X99 Plus and my memory is some cheap Crucial 16GB DDR4 kit which was £170. A 850W EVGA powersupply and a Corsair Air 540. I think the power supply was £100 or so? and the case was about £150 I think. If you added it all up it should be around £1200 with the 1070. With the 680 whcih I got for a previous system that was £550 which was a lot of money back then.
I went 1070 to a 6800xt last year. 7800xt/4070 is a perfectly viable upgrade route. I'm getting 2-3x the performance lol. The pp$ turns into shit past $500 though. I would recommend discounted 7800xt if you want the best pp$. It actually performs close to a 6950xt in a lot of newer titles, even better with a light OC (AMD makes OC dumb easy).
Probably next year maybe, I have a lot of other projects that take priority over my PC.
i'd prefer to look at the meta-reviews rather than any one reviewer or any one set of games, but, yea, you're right, 7800XT is ~5% faster than 6800XT, it is factually incorrect to say it's slower.
I don't know why everyone seems to have collectively decided that it's slower, same for the 4060 and 4060 Ti which are both faster than the 3060 and 3060 Ti (respectively) at relevant resolutions. Maybe not as much faster as people would like to see, but they literally perform faster in spite of the memory bandwidth reductions etc.
He didn't? I watched the review and all I heard him say is it a specific price it's cheaper than the 7800 XT and it "often trades places with it". And that "we saw the 6800 XT outperform the 7800 XT in several tests in our review". That's not "faster than the 7800XT", that's just saying that in some cases the 6800 XT is the better card.
Keep hodling, I'm sure you can get a 5th hand 4090 off ebay in 5years for a few hundred.