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The International Cricket Council has become the latest sports body to ban transgender players from the elite women’s game if they have gone through male puberty.

The ICC said it had taken the decision, following an extensive scientific review and nine-month consultation, to “protect the integrity of the international women’s game and the safety of players”.

It joins rugby union, swimming, cycling, athletics and rugby league, who have all gone down a similar path in recent years after citing concerns over fairness or safety.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most transwomen are more fairly matched against AMAB men than AFAB women.

Source?

[–] xmunk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only do I think this study is complete non-sense, but 3 other professors at the same journal published their comments and concerns with this study and how it's being spread around as though it's fact when in truth, the "science" in it is rubbish.

Here's a link to the article in PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37726582/
PubMed unfortunately doesn't have a transcript, but you can read the transcript here (or click on the link next to DOI in PubMed that I linked above): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-023-01928-8

Here's TL;DR from the conclusion of the comment on the study is that the original study's scientific basis is dubious at best, it hasn't been properly peer reviewed, despite not being properly peer reviewed this article is being shared and used as a basis for shaping policies.

And besides, even if the original study were true, wouldn't transgender athletes would be winning at a rate higher than their prevalence in sports? Considering about 1% of people are transgender, they should win 1% of the time, but that doesn't happen, because any advantage is entirely fictitious.

And even if there was an advantage, there are lots of people who have a biological advantage. That's just a part of sports that's impossible to eliminate because we're not all robots running on the exact same hardware and software.

[–] ryathal 1 points 1 year ago

You aren't factoring in how many people win as a %. Only like .01% of people compete at the top level of sports, if 1% of people are Trans it's going to take a while to actually hit someone that is both talented enough to be relevant and trans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And backing up your claim, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want you to know that the study that was posted is trash. Here's link to a comment on that same study by 3 professors from the same journal https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-023-01928-8

And here's a quick TL;DR from the conclusion of the comment on the study is that the original study's scientific basis is dubious at best, it hasn't been properly peer reviewed, despite not being properly peer reviewed this article is being shared and used as a basis for shaping policies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That doesn't surprise me, but I wasn't aware of that. Thanks!

[–] xmunk 5 points 1 year ago

No worries at all. I know this is a really sensitive subject and it'll basically require a change in how we view sports leagues and gender to resolve.