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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (8 children)

If it works, why change it?

That's why it's so bizarre that people support losing the ability to plug in headphones on their smartphones because the 3.5mm jack is "old".

.....so?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's why it's so bizarre that people support losing the ability to plug in headphones on their smartphones because the 3.5mm jack is "old".

Please stop using the term 'old'! You won't stop them refusing it that way. All you do is to induce FOMO.

It's not old, it's proven … Proven to be sturdy, robust and long-serving technology and just reliable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nobody removed it because it's old

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Nobody removed it because it's old, but OP is just saying that people defend the removal by saying "it's old", when that's neither a valid reason nor the actual reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

With how stable my new WiFi 6 router is for me, personally I don't feel the need for ethernet anymore even for gaming.
So I have no issue if I buy a laptop that can be thinner without RJ45
Will I appreciate it if they still manage to fit it? Sure, a little bit? But it's definitely not a make or break decision for me.
Same case with headphone jacks, I love the benefits of wireless enough to ignore the benefits wired bring, so my purchase decision isn't considering a headphone jack, sure if a phone I have has it, it'll be a nice little thing, but I'll probably not be using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Why change it? To improve it. That’s why there have been dozens of changes and improvements to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ethernet is too old.

Let's change the plug so it has no clip and can fall out easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ethernet is too old.

Let's change the plug so it has no clip and can fall out easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

make magsafe network cables... I am sure they would love it when routing cables in a rack :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

IMO there should be a thin form factor standard for ethernet, plenty of devices would benefit from it which is pretty apparent given how many thin devices don't have ethernet; I would not mind using an adapter for it if it meant more devices had ethernet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

make magsafe network cables... I am sure they would love it when routing cables in a rack :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IMO there should be a thin form factor standard for ethernet, plenty of devices would benefit from it which is pretty apparent given how many thin devices don't have ethernet; I would not mind using an adapter for it if it meant more devices had ethernet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sooo 802.3z-1998?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I would love to plug headphones into my phone, but I hate 3.5 mm. It's like mini-USB in the way that it will easily break the plug or the socket when you accidentally rip it out. Or even worse, it can pull devices out of pockets or off desks, because it's not designed to pull out when sideways forces are applied.

That's something that Apple's lightning connector, USB C and USB Micro are specifically designed around. Any significant force in any direction will slip out the plug without damaging either end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I didn’t support the loss of the 3.5mm jack at the time, but at this point? Digital is obviously the future, I see no reason why I should be held hostage by the atrocious DAC included in my phone when my nice headphones can do so much better.

Bluetooth vs Wired is still a discussion worth having but defending the 3.5mm headphone jack is where you lose me. Headphone manufacturers should have hopped to USB as a standard a long time ago and they didn’t solely to milk more money out of analog audiophiles.