this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
533 points (97.2% liked)

politics

18672 readers
2738 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

McKinsey said cities could adapt to the declining demand for office space by “taking a hybrid approach themselves,” developing multi-use office and retail space and constructing buildings that can be easily adapted to serve different purposes.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (5 children)

They could use them for retail or…they could re-zone these areas for residential housing and reduce the cost of renting or buying a home, but that would make too much sense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There isn't enough profit for the capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Exactly. 100 year leases with year on year increased service fees go brrrrrr

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Rezone to multi-use zoning. Brownstones are a good way to build cities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, commercial and office spaces often lack a lot of amenities that residential spaces have (lots of access to natural light, sufficient water supply and sewage capacity, etc.) but that will be incredibly dependant on the building for how much that complicates the conversion

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

sleeping in the street has plenty of natural light. I think you'll find some people are willing to make the sacrifice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I would imagine there are a lot of challenges around converting high rise commercial buildings into housing. Many buildings only have a handful of toilets per floor, maybe a few sinks, and no showers. I'm also sure there are no gas lines in many of them (electric heating and cooking might suffice). But for sure, water delivery will be one of the biggest challenges.

Then there are even lame laws regarding parking requirements for a building with so many residents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I imagine these would end up more like condos that tenements. Maybe 3-5 large units per floor. I dont think the plumbing retrofit would be a huge deal...nor the parking since an office that large would likely have had parking already. Mixes use zoning could lead to some pretty cool buildings potentially. Imagine living in a condo that had a grocery store and maybe some bars or restaurants on the lower floors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Imagine living in a condo that had a grocery store and maybe some bars or restaurants on the lower floors.

That'd be pretty cool.

Live on the 10th. Coffee shop on the 5th and groceries on the 12th. A bar on the 15th and a 24h gym (open to anyone gym) on the 3rd.

I wonder how many floors you'd need to convert to residential to support the remaining commercial.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

electric heating and cooking might suffice).

It would easily suffice. All these buildings have heating already so that's no issue, and electric cooking is safer anyways

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If they can split old churches into apartments, I'm pretty sure they can do the same to abandoned office buildings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You can't turn them into accomodations unless there's at least one egress window in the bedrooms