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People always seem shocked when I'm offended by terms like "I hate men".
Like it's somehow wrong of me to be offended by blatant misandry because I should just "know what they mean". I'm one of "the good ones, they don't mean me when they say it". Horseshit.
The blatant misandry that some people carry around like a badge of honor is kinda horrifying, if I’m being honest. It’s almost like they don’t even realize that what they’re doing and how they feel about billions of people is inherently wrong.
Thanks for a great example of how men's concerns are often ignored or downplayed.
I think just having some empathy would really help you here. The point is not difficult to understand
This article is about how everyone needs support, only the last comment on it even mentioned the language.
I can't see how anything is being diverted here. They are two distinct issues and we have to be able to acknowledge more than one societal problem at a time if we are to make meaningful changes.
Do you genuinely believe that a man has never been discriminated against in some way by a woman because of his sex in the history of the world?
I think reducing the cause of these societal failings down to "alpha bros" is oversimplifying too much though. They are systemic issues, and a solution for one will not necessarily be the solution to the other. Ensuring women's equality won't inherently eliminate the pressures that prevent men from opening up emotionally, and vice versa. They both need to be talked about.
Well no. I wouldn't put it like that but I think that statement is sexist, but obviously don't agree with the Palestinian kid one. So hello from outside the circle.
Not sure about the race example but yes exactly, thank you.
This is your framing from your own personal perspective. You were originally responding to someone who surely isn't attempting to blame sexism on women. I'm sure you can see how a statement like "men are trash" is sexist. Just like feminists are correct to call out anyone saying "women are trash," men are totally within their rights to call this out and discuss how sexism in society affects them too. This post is the perfect example, men need to be able to step outside of this context where they are treated like monsters (or rapists, as you said) or like their needs are less important. Things would be better for everyone if men had the emotional support offered to women. Even the bad ones might not be so bad if they felt less devalued and disposable.
I'm sorry if you've been traumatized and I totally see how having your words scrutinised like this is annoying as shit if you're just looking to vent, but the whole point is that nobody should have to experience sexism. And that includes men. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that.
Ok well I think you're wrong.
And sexist.
So I'm not interested in talking anymore. Good luck with all this hate.
The present is judging you.
Also no, I'm not. Probably won't find many brown people that are. Of course you don't care about what I think because 1) I am a man and 2) you already made up your mind what type of person I am and are completely unwilling to accept that you are wrong
Doesn't make any difference to me.
Edit: so wait, are you trash? Are you a rapist?
Hmm yeah but I have a mother you know? A girlfriend? Somehow you think I don't empathise with the people I love, just because I think making sexist statements is wrong
Wow.
If you think this is what j said you need to learn to read.
For the rest of it, congratulations on being the first person I have to report, and my first vague death threat on Lemmy! Aren't you special
Crazy how you just completely ignored what I said and propped up the most blatant strawman.
Keep it up.
Like only one conversation about gender discrimination is permitted to happen at one time, and any time on one is time taken away from the other. It's not either men's issues or women's, it should be both.