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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Good job intel. Thx for software locking my 3 months old 13th gen CPU.
After this, I don't think i will buy a team Blue solution ever again.
At least with Nvidia FG lock exclusively to 4000 series, there is a hardware reason so it's swallowable.
Software locking is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Frame gen could be used with older gpus just a question if nshitia wants it, looking at you far 3 hoping you finally release

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nope.

Nvidia and AMD's frame gen work completely differently, AMD for the most part uses software, Nvidia's is mainly all hardware based.

The optical flow accelerator inside Ada is roughly 4-5 times faster than the OFA in Ampere, Using the OFA in Ampere to do FG wouldn't give any performance uplift, It would infact result in a performance penalty. An Nvidia engineer spoke about this when frame gen was first shown and said eventually they may be able to make it work on 3000 series but the uplift would be absolutely minuscule to non existent.... but as per usual with lunatics on the internet he was called names, Threatened with violence, Murder etc etc.... which is why we generally don't have experts interacting with the public anywhere near as much as we would like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you are buying amd cpus that don't have apo either. Great idea...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who needs E cores when you can pull the same benchmarks as Intel at 2/3s the power?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What benchmarks are those? I can test it, let's go and see same performance at 2/3 the power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean the 7800x3D trades blows with the 13900k, while using 2/3rds the power or even less in some instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

with those instances only being gaming. most people who buy intel CPUs don’t only game.

also, they asked for benchmarks. you’re welcome to provide power consumption benchmarks. i know, for example, the 7900x is even with the 13700k in blender, but that’s just one workload. it seems hard to find power consumption comparisons for non high end workloads, so i’d love to see more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have a genuine question. Would people feel better if they just dropped APO support entirely for all CPUs and just said screw it ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No. Why would I take away someone else's performance because Intel is being anti-consumer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

So what would that leave us with, no APO at all? People wouldn't be happy or unhappy because it doesn't exist.

The point is it can be easily implemented into the previous generations and doesn't need to be a USP for 14th gen. Is it even a USP for 14th gen? Cause with 2 game support, that too not even the leading MP games, it doesn't mean much right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You will get it. Just wait few months. Dont fall into these dumb youtubers trap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never say never.

While it's a dumb move from Intel (they have serious competitor) now it's time for customers and reviewers to be vocal, AMD tried shenanigans with AM4, but we won, now it's time for Intel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Sorry for being ignorant but what are the AM4 shenanigans you are talking about?