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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The right does split like the left. Hell, sometimes they're straight up shooting each other.

Look, everyone has their own experiences. I know plenty of anarchists who won't even go near MLs because of how extremely traitorous they are right now. You don't come where I come from. You don't know my experiences. Some anarchists mistrusts MLs with very good reasons and that's fine. And it's also fine to shitpost about it in an anarchist forum without having half of hexbear come in like a rampage of sealions.

And given how quickly hexbears were to close ranks and piledive me from orbit, and then gaslight me on top, well, let's just say my impression has not improved.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The right does split like the left. Hell, sometimes they're straight up shooting each other.

Extremely rarely, although that is what is occurring in Spain right now.

Look, everyone has their own experiences. I know plenty of anarchists who won't even go near MLs because of how extremely traitorous they are right now. You don't come where I come from. You don't know my experiences. Some anarchists mistrusts MLs with very good reasons and that's fine. And it's also fine to shitpost about it in an anarchist forum without having half of hexbear come in like a rampage of sealions.

The people for left-unity are going to feel attacked by anti-left-unity posting. This is just a fact.

When people feel attacked the result of that shouldn't really be that surprising, should it? Especially when the spread of that rhetoric would actively harm hexbear. People are going to be protective of something they see as integral to the only space on the internet that they feel safe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When people feel attacked the result of that shouldn’t really be that surprising, should it? Especially when the spread of that rhetoric would actively harm hexbear. People are going to be protective of something they see as integral to the only space on the internet that they feel safe.

Hexbears going over to an anarchist space, and showing their asses to the world as either sealions or toxic trolls is fairly counter-productive.

Or do you think this has been a good showing has had a positive result for hexbear in any sense?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone looks fucking ridiculous. You, me, everyone. There is never and there has never been a single sectarian argument where everyone involved did not look like a clown.

Which is precisely why people should not even start that shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

(Some) Anarchist, will continue not believing in Left Unity. Sorry, but I don't ascribe to this ML position on "anti-sectarianism". People are going to continue starting this shit. It's up to hexbear to not make it end up...well, like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not just an "ML position", in fact it's not an ML position at all and there is no ML party with that position. Your attempts to frame it as one are sus.

People are going to continue starting this shit. It's up to hexbear to not make it end up...well, like this.

You. You're the "people". You are saying "I'm going to do this more".

Really don't be surprised when this completely derails into hostility and destroys any kind of positive relationship you attempted to build. Anyway I'm disengaging now. Please don't call me back in here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"Anti-sectariansim" is an ML keyword. Anarchists don't talk like that. you may think this is a generic thing, but it's not.

and there is no ML party with that position

They sure talk about it a lot though.

Your attempts to frame it as one are sus.

Ah I see we started poisoning that well already...

You. You’re the “people”. You are saying “I’m going to do this more”.

You realize I just crossposted this meme, yes?

And if you think the Anarchist distrust for MLs is not a common phenomenon, then you've been in that hexbear echo chamber way too long.

Really don’t be surprised when this completely derails into hostility and destroys any kind of positive relationship you attempted to build.

I don't know if you noticed, I haven't tried to build any relationship with MLs. I don't trust them. Even less so since today. Even less since y'all started implying fedjacketing shit. You do your thing, I do mine. I've merely left my door open because I think you peeps have sometimes valid criticisms against libs and it's good to be kept on edge from the left. Don't mistake this with me trying to make alliances with tankies who would put me against the wall first chance they got.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Mate what part of trying to disengage do you not fucking understand? I'm not reading that shit, fuck off and stop.